Agenda and draft minutes

Resources and Performance Select Committee - Thursday, 18 July 2024 10.00 am

Venue: Council Chamber, Woodhatch Place, Reigate

Contact: Jake Chambers, Scrutiny Officer 

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19/24

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTIONS

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    Purpose of the item: To receive any apologies for absence and substitutions.

     

    Apologies have been received from Cllrs Steeds and Forster-Warner.

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    Apologies received from Cllrs Lesley Steeds and John O’Reilly.

     

    Robert King joined the meeting at 10.02 am

     

20/24

MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS: 15 MAY 2024 pdf icon PDF 245 KB

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    Purpose of the item: To agree the minutes of the Resources and Performance Select Committee held on 15 May 2024 as a true and accurate record of proceedings.

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    The Committee AGREED the minutes from the previous meeting were a true and accurate record of the meeting.

     

21/24

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

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    Purpose of the item: All Members present are required to declare, at this point in the meeting or as soon as possible thereafter:

     

          I.        Any disclosable pecuniary interests and/or

     

        II.        Other interests arising under the Code of Conduct in respect of any item(s) of business being considered at this meeting.

     

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    ·         Members are reminded that they must not participate in any item where they have a disclosable pecuniary interest.

     

    ·         As well as an interest of the Member, this includes any interest, of which the Member is aware, that relates to the Member’s spouse or civil partner (or any person with whom the Member is living as a spouse or civil partner).

     

    ·         Members with a significant personal interest may participate in the discussion and vote on that matter unless that interest could be reasonably regarded as prejudicial.

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    None received.

     

22/24

QUESTIONS AND PETITIONS

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    Purpose of the item: To receive any questions or petitions.

     

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    1.    The deadline for Members’ questions is 12:00pm four working days before the meeting (Friday 12 July 2024).

     

    2.    The deadline for public questions is seven days before the meeting (Thursday 11 July 2024).

     

    3.    The deadline for petitions was 14 days before the meeting, and no petitions have been received.

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    None received.

     

23/24

VERBAL UPDATE ON THE WORK OF THE DIGITAL BUSINESS AND INSIGHTS (DB&I) TASK GROUP pdf icon PDF 521 KB

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    Purpose of the item:  To give a brief update on the progress of the group’s final report and its progress to Cabinet.

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    Cllr Steven McCormick, Chairman of the Digital Business and Insights (DB&I) Task Group

    Cllr Robert Hughes, Chairman of the Resources and Performance Select Committee

    (RPSC)

    Jake Chambers, Scrutiny Officer

     

    1. The Chairman of the DB&I Task Group outlined that the Task Group reviewed the transition from the SAP enterprise resource planning (ERP) software to Unit 4 ERP programme, evaluated and determined tangible reasons for this and benefits for the Council. The Chairman of the DB&I Task Group felt it was a balanced report that would go to Cabinet, and all the report’s recommendations were accepted, in principle, by Cabinet.

     

    1. The Chairman of RPSC noted the report was agreed in a previous online meeting of the Committee and noted the work of the Chairman of the DB&I Task Group.

     

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CUSTOMER TRANSFORMATION PROGRAMME pdf icon PDF 244 KB

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    Purpose of the item: The report provides an update on the Customer Transformation Programme, including an overview of the approach and work to date and plans for the next phase of delivery, including investment requirements.

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    Denise Turner-Stewart, Deputy Lead and Cabinet Member for Customer & Communities

    Liz Mills, Interim Executive Director of Customer, Digital and Change (CDC)

    Michael Smith, Director of Design and Transformation

    Anna D’Alessandro, Interim Executive Director of Finance & Corporate Services and S151 Officer

    Matt Marsden, Strategic Finance Business Partner for Strategy and Innovation

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

     

    1. After the Deputy Lead and Cabinet Member for Customer & Communities introduced the report, the Chairman asked what would be different in five years-time if the Transformation Programme was delivered and what consequences would arise if it were not. The Interim Executive Director of CDC explained that it was understood that current systems for customers are fragmented, largely designed in siloes through a focus on services rather than customers, and that customers’ achieving their desired outcomes expected from council services had been made more difficult, despite some examples of very good work. She clarified that the programme is required to unify the council’s thinking regarding the customer experience, re-design processes with this in mind, underpinned by a core infrastructure to help with delivery alongside a culture that puts the customer first. She noted, for example, that the council’s than 40 microsites, often handling important work done in partnership with other organisations, would be reviewed and that the council would update some end-of-life products to increase opportunities to gain knowledge and insight, better target work and support customers, and would investigate opportunities to automate work and help staff focus on other work. The need for the Transformation Programme to evaluate every customer journey was also referenced - two different service delivery areas were evaluated in their current state, one being an online application that is considered well-designed, though in fact customers were unable to make it through the system on 80% of uses. The impact of this was measured, and a new model is being trialled. This was done in partnership across AWHP and Surrey Police in the referral of vulnerable adults into adult social care, thereby delivering significant customer benefits. The importance of supporting Surrey County Council (SCC) staff through a customer-focussed model was reiterated.

     

    1. Referencing the government’s launch of gov.uk, the Chairman about SCC unifying microsite content under its main webpage.  The Interim Executive Director of CDC explained this was being reviewed in the Children, Families and Lifelong Learning and Culture (CFLLC) directorate, where information is presently posted for parents, carers and professionals on multiple sites, and models have been implemented elsewhere in the council that brought sites together under one area through an intelligent search function, allowing users to better navigate through these resources by bringing relevant information together. It was also being reviewed with respect to school partners, who often need to use multiple different services that could be better unified. It was noted that Hampshire County Council recently invested in this area and that colleagues from that authority were being liaised with.

     

    1. In reference to paragraphs 3 and 8 of the report, which noted the challenges that many residents  ...  view the full minutes text for item 24/24

25/24

DIGITAL INCLUSION pdf icon PDF 110 KB

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    Purpose of the item: To share the outcomes of research into digital exclusion in Surrey with Members and the proposed response to the findings of the research. The report seeks the Committee’s endorsement of the proposed way forward.

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    Witnesses:

    Denise Turner-Stewart, Deputy Lead and Cabinet Member for Customer and

    Communities

    Liz Mills, Interim Executive Director of Customer, Digital and Change (CDC)

    Michael Smith, Director of Design and Transformation

    Louise Holloway, Digital and Customer Experience Manager

    Ioni Sullivan, Programme Manager- Equality, Diversity & Inclusion (EDI)

    Nikki Roberts, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Surrey Coalition of Disabled  

    People

    Clare Burgess, CEO of Sight for Surrey

    Catherine Hodgson, CEO of Age UK Surrey- Online

    Saba Khan, CEO of the Surrey Minority Ethnic Forum (SMEF)- Online

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

     

    1. The Chairman asked how Surrey’s rate of digital inclusion compared to other counties of a similar size, such as Hampshire. The Chairman also asked if 5.7% of adults being offline was a high or low rate and how this compared to the regional average. The Programme Manager for EDI explained that the regional average for the South-East is 5.8%, in line with Surrey. Hampshire was 5.9%. Surrey is within the average rate for its size and location, while other counties have a higher rate such as Essex with 6.3% and Buckinghamshire at 6.6%. The Digital Exclusion Risk Index examines issues such as age, broadband access and deprivation - Surrey has a slightly lower score than others at 2.47%, whereas the national average is 3%.

     

    1. Regarding paragraph 10 of the report, which references work done to improve accessibility of digital services and resources, one Member asked what this was and how partners would be worked with to improve it. The Digital and Customer Experience Manager explained that work undertaken in Surrey, around digital accessibility, was underpinned by public sector bodies legislation which described what should be done and recommendations the council was asked to follow. Work was done with organisations such as Sight for Surrey and the Surrey Coalition of Disabled People. The council has increased the level of website content and work is undertaken to ensure staff across the authority learn about digital accessibility. Programmes of work tested this. They added that work was done with procurement given challenges around the digital accessibility of services provided to the council by the private sector. This was expected to change with legislation that will apply to the private sector.

     

    1. The Chairman noted and praised the council’s work on digital inclusion, but raised concerns around the Digital Inclusion Strategy, which was recently shared with the voluntary, community and faith sector (VCFS). The Chairman invited views from VCFS sector attendees. The CEO of the Surrey Coalition of Disabled People (‘Surrey Coalition’) explained that the charity provided a digital inclusion service in Surrey, (excluding North-West Surrey). Devices are provided free of charge, on loan, to people and five-to-sex digital skills training sessions are provided. The CEO of Sight for Surrey explained that the charity runs digital services to help people who are blind, partially sighted, hard of hearing, deaf, or deaf blind, to access technology through an employed specialist, an Artificial Intelligence (AI) apprentice and a group of technology volunteers that helped people at  ...  view the full minutes text for item 25/24

26/24

PERFORMANCE MONITORING SESSION NOTES 19 JUNE 2024 pdf icon PDF 189 KB

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    Purpose of the item:  To publish the notes of the Performance Monitoring Session conducted on 19 June 2024.

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    The committee AGREED the notes of this session.

     

27/24

FORWARD WORK PROGRAMME AND RECOMMENDATION TRACKER pdf icon PDF 152 KB

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    Purpose of the item: For the Select Committee to review the attached Forward Work Programme and Recommendation Tracker, making suggestions for additions or amendments as appropriate.

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    The Committee NOTED the Actions and Recommendations Tracker and Forward Work Plan.

     

28/24

DATE OF THE NEXT MEETING

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    The next meeting of the Resources and Performance Select Committee will be held on Wednesday 23 October 2024 at 10:00am.

     

    There will be an informal briefing on scrutiny of the budget setting process on Friday 20 September at 1.00pm.

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    The Committee NOTED the next meeting would be held on Wednesday 23 October 2024.