In
attendance:
Mark Nuti, Cabinet
Member for Health and Wellbeing, and Public Health
Liz Uliasz, Director
for Mental Health, Emergency Duty Team (EDT) and Prisons- Adults,
Wellbeing and Health Partnerships (AWHP), Surrey County Council
(SCC)
Lucy Gate, Public
Health Principal, Mental Health Surrey County Council
(SCC)
Rebecca Brooker,
Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) Surrey County Council
(SCC)
Lorna Payne, Chief
Operating Officer, Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Foundation
Trust (SaBP)
Georgina Foulds,
Associate Director for Community Transformation, leading Surrey
Heartlands Community Transformation Programme (SaBP)
Simon Brauner-Cave,
Deputy Director of Mental Health Commissioning- NHS Surrey
Heartlands ICB (SHICB)
Key points
raised during the discussion:
- The Public Health
Principal provided a detailed introduction to the
report.
- The Chairman asked
what the data explains about the number of people of working age in
Surrey who were not working because of mental health issues, what
are the gaps in the current provision and how these gaps could be
filled. The Public Health Principal explained that in Surrey there
were around 100,000 fit notes for people signed off from work due
to ill health, the majority of which were mental health or MSK
(musculoskeletal) related. It was not known how many of these get
repeat fit notes, but it showed a population level need. The
Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) added that steps were being
taken to address gaps in understanding to provide a good service to
residents and help those most in need. Research had been done with
people living in work poverty, people furthest from the labour
market and with employers to understand what this meant to them.
Mental health emerged as a common theme in this work. Specific and
targeted work was being undertaken around impacts on employment,
looking both at the impact of sickness absence for
businesses’ economic productivity and resulting effects on
SCC’s system in terms of service demand and waiting lists,
and the impact on individuals and wellbeing as well as qualitative
and quantitative research on what experiences have been. Planned
ways to engage with people on this included connecting into things
such as Men’s Pitstops (mental health group). SCC would also look at their
own staffing and how they can understand sickness levels and
how that impacted on local productivity.
- The Chairman raised
that careers and satisfying employment were key to dealing with
mental health issues, and asked what focus was on skills and career
development and what the thinking was on that direction. The
Communities and
Prevention Lead, (AWHP) explained SCC was working in a
person-centred way, recognising every individual was different and
wanted different things out of employment. There were two vanguard
programmes through Department of Work and Pensions funding (DWP),
which gave SCC £12m to support people into good quality work.
This was being delivered across the system in partnership with
health and voluntary sector colleagues, and district and boroughs.
Both programmes had a person-centred approach with residents and
included provision to work with employers to encourage workplaces
to have structures and support for staff’s mental health.
Work was done around work poverty to understand how mental
health’s impact on people’s ability to move into strong
and healthy careers. A programme was put in place called
‘More and Different’ which was created to identify
entry level roles and how they could develop into long- term
careers. SCC created spaces for schools and employment support
provision to come together in a network to enable practice
improvements and support people back into good quality work in a
system way.
- The Director for
Mental Health, EDT and Prisons added that AWHP had the adult social
care academy which looked at opportunities for SCC’s staff
such as preceptorships for newly qualified therapists and
occupational therapists (OT), apprenticeship programmes into social
work and OT training, assessed and supported year in employment
(ASYE) for newly qualified social workers. Career progression for
non-registered staff that might not was to be a social worker was
also looked at. SHICB also had an academy that SCC linked in with
to look more widely across other cohorts such as social care
providers.
- The Vice-Chair
recognised that improvements were underway but asked how it was
discovered that things were being done differently compared to
before due to the Improvement Plan, and if examples could be
provided. The Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) explained
that in terms of innovation, ‘Work Wise’ and
‘Work Well’ were innovation programmes with the idea to
test, develop practice and learn. There were opportunities to test
new things locally and inform national policy. SCC had introduced
time-unlimited support for people. The ‘Work Wise’
programme could be accessed for as long as needed. SCC was
introducing rapid support through the ‘Work Well’
programme. When people were off work under a fit note, the ability
to access support was limited and rapid support would help get to
people earlier in their mental health experience and see how this
prevention made a difference. There was national and local
evaluation ongoing for these programmes.
- A Member referred to
the £6m investment from DWP to help innovation programmes and
asked what mechanisms there were to utilise this, and how SCC would
demonstrate how it would demonstrate how it was being utilised. The
Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) agreed to provide the
committee with more detail on the work of the innovation
programmes. Both the ‘Work Wise’ and ‘Work
Well’ programmes were available to all Surrey’s
residents and in different locations to be accessible. The
programmes support included someone to help a person navigate a
range of holistic support services, such as skills development and
mental health support. There was evaluation in place to help
deliver these programmes to a high standard as well as
understanding their own processes and learning what was and what
was not working.
- The Vice-Chair raised
that districts and boroughs were in receipt of the UK’s
prosperity fund and asked if this fund was being used to help SCC
with the innovation programmes, and if there was coordination with
the districts and boroughs. The Communities and Prevention Lead,
(AWHP) explained that SCC allowed districts and boroughs, who had
autonomy of their Shared Prosperity Fund, to do what they felt was
right for their residents. This was done in an environment where
SCC could collaborate with them. SCC was developing a worker health
approach, aiming to bring all people doing things together into one
space to build understanding of all of Surrey’s work and
health offer. This meant SCC could maximise what the district and
boroughs were doing through things such as the Shared Prosperity
Fund. SCC were working together with districts and boroughs in a
range of ways on the ‘Work Wise’ and ‘Work
Well’ programmes where possible.
- A Member asked what
the current cost to businesses in Surrey was from staff unable to
maintain a role due to poor mental health and if it was too early
to show the improvements and comparisons in any one area and what
did the data tell us. The Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP)
explained there was currently not a lot of localised data around
this. SCC could see things from national research Part of
DWP’s funding would be used to understand the local picture.
SCC would gather a snapshot of the local picture and monitor this
overtime to see how SCC was making a difference and how it changed
based on things, such as new government policies. There were
important areas of skill demand in Surrey, such as green skills and
health and care skills. Work would be done to understand what this
meant locally. The Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) would
share the data with the committee when they obtained
it.
- The Chairman asked if
there was collaboration with Surrey Adult Learning. The Communities
and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) confirmed that they were connected with
Surrey Adult Learning as part of their collaborative network and
there is more to do on how they can better connect
together.
- Regarding the
‘One System, One Plan’ approach, a Member asked how the
data had improved patient reported outcome measures because of the
Community Mental Health Transformation programme, and a new
place-based Integrated Model of Primary and Community Mental Health
Care. The Associate Director for Community Transformation explained
that SaBP had achieved the roll-out of the specialist integrated
mental health services in primary care across all of SaBP’s
footprint. It was important to understand the impact of this and to
review improved outcomes for people. SaBP commissioned a company
called Unity Insights to undertake an independent evaluation
completed in March/April 2024. It had positive findings around
improvements in access, experience and outcomes. The report could
be shared with the committee.
- The Associate
Director for Community Transformation added that the second phase
of the Community Transformation Mental Health programme was a
continuation of the work achieved so far. In this phase,
integration with places and neighbourhoods was looked at. Whilst
they embedded the new primary care service in the primary care
networks (PCNs), they wanted to bring together community services
with partners to work collectively and address local community
needs. In the second phase’s governance structure, working
with each place to scope what integrated teams would look like and
start to build on what was in place. Pathways forums for all
agencies and GPs to come together to discuss how to meet
people’s needs, rather than risk a person being bounced
around the system was embedded well and received positive
feedback.
- A Member asked what
was being done to support people with enduring mental health
difficulties in the community, to be kept out of hospital or
transitioned out of hospital and helped back into employment, and
what is the scale in comparative terms of such problems, and how
well are you managing that. The Chief
Operating Officer (SaBP) explained that SaBP provided psychology
support such as talking therapies, and secondary care. SaBP was
trying to intervene earlier through community-based support. The
Associate Director for Community Transformation added that in
January 2023 SaBP mobilised a new service called the Home First
approach, which was for people who had complex needs to prioritise
their attention and resources with the intention to stop people
going into hospital as much as possible or reduce the length of
their stay. There was 85 people under the Home First approach and
undertook evaluations on the approach which provided positive data
on supporting people not to go into hospital, reduce the length of
hospital stay, and reduction in the use of the Mental Health Act.
The impact of the approach, which had so far been positive, was
closely monitored. The Deputy Director of Mental Health
Commissioning (SHICB) added that because of the Home First
Approaches’ positive evidence, SHICB had chosen to invest
further resource into the Home First team, particularly to address
personality disorder which SHICB currently underprovided for. The
second phase of the Community Mental Health Transformation
Programme would draw in specialist services to come together and
make referrals easier into services through one simple process
rather than multiple referrals. The Director of Mental Health, EDT
and Prisons added that adult social care’s focus was more on
recovery, such as by working with people to identify their goals
and help get people back into employment.
- A Member asked how it
could be ensured that the most urgent mental health needs were
identified and what was being delivered to support some of the most
vulnerable people in communities to ensure a greater focus on
reducing health inequalities. Additionally, the Member asked what
methods were being used to measure success, what level of success
was achieved so far and what more could be done. The Chief
Operating Officer (SaBP) explained that according to NHS
England’s mental health population needs index, Surrey
Heartlands Integrated Care System had one of the lowest levels of
population need, but had one of the lowest levels of mental health
spend per person, which was challenging. Surrey had a
higher-than-average mortality rate for people with severe mental
illness, and significant challenges and a high level of inequality
for those suffering severe mental illness. SaBP developed a model
using patient level electronic records, which found Surrey’s
definition of severe mental illness included a broader set of
diagnostic codes compared to the Quality Outcomes
Framework.
- The Public Health
Principal (SCC) added that work was done with Surrey University to
understand Surrey’s population with severe enduring mental
health needs. Surrey was recognised as having a low level of need,
as needs were calculated based on Surrey’s demographic. The
Quality Outcome Framework only included certain coding and
diagnosis, so work was undertaken with King’s College London
and Surrey University to understand the level of need and some of
the wider coding, called ICD-10 codes in secondary care and SNOMED
codes in primary care. This had established more than what was
available on the Quality Outcome Framework or national estimates,
which allowed for population health management work to understand
how SCC could target and prioritise interventions. Scenario
modelling was done to understand some of the possible high-impact
changes for this population and review areas such as Accident and
Emergency attendance and hospital admissions. There was a Severe
Mental Illness (SMI) Health Inequalities Board and a multi-agency
action plan would be explored to support the implementation of the
board recommendations.
- The Chief Operating
Officer (SaBP) added that SaBP found around 22,000 individuals
thought to fit into the SMI category, whereas on the Quality
Outcome Framework only found around 5,700 people. Key
neighbourhoods of deprivation had a significantly higher proportion
of people with SMI, and there were gender disparities with nearly
twice as many women as men in the SMI population but more men with
SMI were likely to have more mental health admissions. SMI
population had substantially longer A&E waits. Community teams
tried their best to support people to live longer in their own
homes. Ongoing work with The Richmond Fellowship was important to
ensure that people with SMI get work they were good at and
interested in.
- A Member raised the
importance of getting meaningful measurements of people’s
mental health needs and concerns regarding the equations and
coding’s used as it is not completely accurate in identifying
peoples lived experiences of those people most in need. The Chief
Operating Officer (SaBP) agreed but highlighted diagnosis was
sometimes not straightforward and could take time.
- The Vice-Chair
referred to the idea of engaging with employers to encourage the
employment of people with mental health issues and asked how much
focus there was on working with Surrey’s economy to address
the situation. The Chief Operating Officer (SaBP) highlighted work
with The Richmond Fellowship who worked with a range of employers
and would an important part of recovery in terms of avoiding
hospital admission and helping with employment and accommodation.
The Associate Director for Community Transformation added that SaBP
integrated employment support with their core offer within primary
and secondary care. The provider had ‘link workers’,
which were embedded in SaBP’s core community services,
involved in case discussions and ensuring earlier help for people.
SaBP also had good outcome reports from the provider ‘Way
Through’. The Vice-Chair suggested it would be proactive to
have a programme that sought out employers to help support
employment for people with mental health issues. The Director for
Mental Health, EDT and Prisons agreed.
- A Member asked what
the benefits would be to residents from the all-age and place-based
approach to developing a ‘Mental Health System for Population
Health Gain’, which was being developed in the Public Health
and Communities team, with Places and other partners, and what the
potential issues were. The Public Health Principal explained that
the approach involved working with population health management to
understand the level of need in different places. This involved
working with places across NHS footprints to understand their
populations of SMI, common mental health disorders and lower level
need such as sleep. It also involved close working between the
Public Health, Communities and Prevention team and teams around the
community teams to embed interventions such as the ‘How are
you?’ Surrey workforce wellbeing programme. Part of this
involved supporting organisations to prevent mental ill health and
enable access to early interventions and work with communities to
strengthen connectivity. The care sector and routine manual workers
were being prioritised in the priority neighbourhoods. Once
organisations were ready to support mental wellbeing, they could
then be supported to employ people who may be more vulnerable.
Community resilience was being supported through the team around
the community model where a toolkit programme on the 5 ways to
wellbeing was used for communities to develop tailored action
plans.
- The Communities and
Prevention Lead, (AWHP) added that there was a service that
supported employers to take on people with all kinds of
disabilities, including mental health concerns, supporting
employers to place the person within their team and help the person
stay in the role and succeed. There was an offer to all businesses
to help improve their understanding.
- The Vice-Chair
outlined that the report stated that the number of people out of
the labour market due to ill health was at an all-time high, and
in-work ill-health was rising. The Vice-Chair asked if the measures
outlined being taken by SCC would lead to a positive outcome. The
Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) explained that SCC believed
they would bring about the desired change, indicated through the
initiatives undertaken and the bid to be national vanguard sites
for the ‘Work Well’ and ‘Work Wise’
programmes. The Public Health Principal added that the programmes
outlined across the system were evidence-based or evidence-inspired
and were being tested which was key. The next step was around how
the initiatives would be integrated to understand how the system
was working to support populations and identify need. The
governance fit in three separate places, and a challenge was to
pull this together to understand if the system response was correct
and if it can be improved. The Deputy Director of Mental Health
Commissioning (SHICB) added that the new 10-year plan expected
following Lord Darzi’s report would include more emphasis.
Therefore, requests for more funding was expected around
employment, as an expected theme was around how the NHS was to
support people in the wider economy.
RESOLVED:
The Select Committee noted the
contents of this report and the actions being taken by partners
across Surrey to address the link between mental health and
employment, and the Committee supports the programmes and the
‘One System One Plan’ approach to improving mental
health and the economic activity
The committee
recommended:
- Set clear, measurable
performance objectives for each of the initiatives being
undertaken
- Implement effective
reporting on the performance objectives
Actions requests for further information:
- The Communities and Prevention
Lead, (AWHP) to provide the committee with more detail on how the
innovation programmes, ‘Work Wise’ and ‘Work
Well’ were working and the support these programmes
offered.
- The Communities and Prevention
Lead, (AWHP) to share further information/data on the work being
conducted to understand Surrey’s local picture regarding the
cost to Surrey’s businesses and Surrey’s economy from
staff unable to maintain a role due to poor mental
health.
- Associate Director
for Community Transformation to share the commissioned independent
evaluation report on the impact of the specialist integrated mental
health services in primary care.