Agenda and minutes

Council Overview & Scrutiny Committee - Thursday, 29 January 2015 11.00 am

Venue: Ashcombe Suite, County Hall, Kingston upon Thames, Surrey KT1 2DN

Contact: Bryan Searle or Rianna Hanford 

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APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTIONS

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    Minutes:

    Apologies were received from Keith Witham and Richard Walsh.

     

    Denis Fuller and Richard Wilson were in attendance as substitutes.

     

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MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING: 3 December 2014 pdf icon PDF 29 KB

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    To agree the minutes as a true record of the meeting.

    Minutes:

    The minutes of the previous meeting were agreed as a true and accurate record of the meeting.

     

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DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

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    To receive any declarations of disclosable pecuniary interests from Members in respect of any item to be considered at the meeting.

     

    Notes:

    ·    In line with the Relevant Authorities (Disclosable Pecuniary Interests) Regulations 2012, declarations may relate to the interest of the member, or the member’s spouse or civil partner, or a person with whom the member is living as husband or wife, or a person with whom the member is living as if they were civil partners and the member is aware they have the interest.

    ·    Members need only disclose interests not currently listed on the Register of Disclosable Pecuniary Interests.

    ·    Members must notify the Monitoring Officer of any interests disclosed at the meeting so they may be added to the Register.

    ·    Members are reminded that they must not participate in any item where they have a disclosable pecuniary interest.

    Minutes:

    No declarations of interest were received.

     

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QUESTIONS AND PETITIONS

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    To receive any questions or petitions.

     

    Notes:

    1.  The deadline for Member’s questions is 12.00pm four working days before the meeting (Friday 23 January).

    2.  The deadline for public questions is seven days before the meeting (Thursday 22 January).

    3.  The deadline for petitions was 14 days before the meeting, and no petitions have been received.

    Minutes:

    Questions had been submitted by Jonathan Essex.  As these directly related to item 7 (Carbon and Energy Policy), these were taken under that item.

     

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RESPONSES FROM THE CABINET TO ISSUES REFERRED BY THE SELECT COMMITTEE

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     There are no responses to report.

    Minutes:

    There were no responses to report.

     

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CARBON AND ENERGY POLICY FOR 2015 TO 2019 pdf icon PDF 153 KB

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    Purpose of the report: 

     

    Policy Development and Review

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Witnesses:

     

    Lesley Harding, Place and Sustainability Group Manager

    Bronwen Chinien, Environment and Policy Team Leader

    Paul Hasley, Energy Manager

     

    Members in attendance:

     

    Denise Le Gal, Cabinet Member for Business Services

    Jonathan Essex, County Councillor for Redhill East

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

     

    1.    Officers introduced the report and informed the Committee that the Carbon and Energy Policy had been updated to ensure it continued to represent value for money, community leadership, local economy and changing environmental resources.  It was noted that officers working on the new policy were working collaboratively with Finance and Property.  The policy would sit alongside other programmes such as waste management and school transport.

    2.     The Committee were informed that energy costs in 2013/14 of the council amounted to £6million on corporate buildings and street lighting, and £8million on schools.  Corporate energy costs and streetlighting have been reduced over the period of the previous Carbon and Energy Policy.

    3.    It was added that Surrey’s annual carbon emissions had also reduced since 2010 by 12%, or 9% after correcting for weather. This has been helped in part by the street lighting programme. The target for 2019 is for the council to reduce its carbon emissions by a further 10%.  Officers confirmed that under the street light programme, lights were made slightly dimmer but newer and more powerful bulbs would be used.  Office lighting was also questioned and officers confirmed that issues of both lighting efficiency improvements and staff behaviours, would be addressed in coming policy  period. 

    4.    The Committee noted that there was an LED street lighting trial currently underway in Merrow Officers commented that the financial case to roll this out across Surrey had been investigated, but has not so far been found to present an acceptable return on investment to justify  the changes.  The Committee suggested using solar panels on school buildings but noted this would require ongoing maintenance, another suggestion was to rent roof space out for use of solar panels. Officers confirmed that a range of schools across Surrey have benefitted from solar panels and cheaper electricity.

    5.    The Committee questioned whether there was effective accounting of carbon costs (“embodied carbon”) in investment decisions and whether full life cycle analysis was carried out, for example on electric vehicles.  Officers responded that the assessment and measurement process would not include full life analysis of embodied carbon, however the management of this would be considered and investigated. However, full life cycle analysis of direct energy costs to the council is conducted and desirable.

    6.    The Committee were informed that the new schools building programme and other new builds would contribute to improving energy efficiency due to new building regulations.  However, this would be offset by an upward pressure on total carbon emissions caused by provision for an increased number of school places.  Initiatives to engage schools included eco summits and enabling schools to get funding from third parties. 

    7.    The Committee discussed traffic congestion on the staff commute contributing to rising carbon emissions.  This  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6/15

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CABINET MEMBER PRIORITIES

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    Purpose of the report:  A verbal update from the Cabinet Members of Business Services

    Minutes:

    Witnesses:

     

    Julie Fisher, Strategic Director for Business Services

    Denise Le Gal, Cabinet Member for Business Services

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

     

    1.    The Cabinet Member for Business Services provided the Committee with a verbal update on her priorities, which had first been presented to the Committee in July 2014. 

    2.    She informed the Committee that a key priority was working on the partnership with East Sussex County Council and the merging of Business Services departments across the two counties.  It was added the draft business case for South East Business Services would be presented at the end of February Cabinet meeting .  A more detailed business case would be shared with Committee after it had been to Cabinet.

    3.    It was noted that the Leader of the Council had set up a small working group, Chaired by Bob Gardner, to look in detail at the business case. 

    4.    The Committee questioned if South East Business Services would be a profit making organisation and the Cabinet Member clarified that efficiency savings would be addressed in the first instance before investments would be considered.  It was noted the organisation would generate income but would not make capital profit as it would remain a public sector organisation in ethos and work in partnership with other organisations.

    5.    The Cabinet Member was pleased to inform the Committee that by the end of March 2015, Surrey was targeting a 100% appraisal completion rate.   It was also reported that over 200 managers had started the Higher Performance Development Programme and it was planned that this would be rolled out to Cabinet Members. 

    6.    Members queried whether the results of a recent office occupancy survey were available.  It was agreed that these would be shared with Members when completed.

    7.    Before closing the item, Members of the Committee expressed disappointment that they had not reviewed the Business Case for South East Business Services ahead of the forthcoming Cabinet decision.  The Strategic Director for Business Services advised Members that the SEBS partnership was not a new project; the principles of partnership working had not changed since they were last reviewed by the Committee and set out in the paper approved by cabinet in November 2011.   

     

    Actions/Further Information to be provided:

     

    ·         None.

    Recommendations:

     

    None.

     

    Committee next steps:

    ·         The Committee to scrutinise the detailed business case for South East Business Services ahead of it being presented to Cabinet in July 2015.

     

     

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AGENCY STAFF AUDIT ACTION PLAN UPDATE pdf icon PDF 365 KB

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    Purpose of Report:  Scrutiny of Services/Performance Management

    Minutes:

    Witnesses:

     

    Ken Akers, HR Relationship Manager

     

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

     

    1.    The HR Relationship Manager informed the Committee that the high priority actions on the management plan had now all been completed.

    2.     It was stated that since the contract had been signed, the Council had saved around £50k per month.  Officers were questioned on the total cost of failing to sign the contract and officers estimated that around £900k savings could have been made if the contract had been signed.

    3.    The Committee were informed that a longer term plan would be to develop a Council agency supply, in conjunction with partnership arrangements with East Sussex County Council. 

     

    Actions/Further Information to be Provided:

     

    Officers to provide further information about the total cost of failing to sign the contract.

    Recommendations:

     

    None.

     

    Committee next steps:

     

    ·         None.

     

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BUDGET MONITORING REPORT pdf icon PDF 75 KB

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    Purpose of the report:  This report presents Council’s financial position at the end of November 2014.

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Witnesses:

     

    Kevin Kilburn, Deputy Chief Finance Officer

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

     

    1.    Officers informed the Committee the December budget monitoring report had now been published with the Cabinet agenda papers. 

    2.    The Committee were informed that an improved position on efficiencies and service reductions  was now forecast for  yearend of £70million.  It was added that an improved revenue position of -£2.7million was forecasted for 2014/15.

    3.    The Committee questioned why there was an under spend within the apprenticeship programme and officers informed that despite best efforts take up numbers in the programme had not been as high as expected. 

    4.    It was noted that the DEFRA and Department for Communities and Local Government schemes were being extended by 3 months to the end of April. 

    5.    It was clarified that the bullet point on page 91 of the agenda, that linked asylum seekers and care leavers together was a typographical error. 

    6.    Members also queried the number of lawyers employed by the County Council and officers agreed to take this question away. 

     

    Actions/Further Information to be Provided:

     

    The question in point 6 above to be answered.

    Recommendations:

     

    None.

     

    Committee next steps:

     

    ·         None.

     

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RECOMMENDATION TRACKER AND FORWARD WORK PROGRAMME pdf icon PDF 11 KB

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DATE OF NEXT MEETING

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    The next meeting of the Committee will be held at 10.30am on Wednesday 4 February.

    Minutes:

    The next meeting of the Committee will be held at 10.30am on 4 February 2015. (please note that this meeting was subsequently cancelled).