Agenda and minutes

Council Overview Board - Thursday, 28 January 2016 10.00 am

Venue: County Hall, Kingston upon Thames, Surrey KT1 2DN

Contact: Helen Rankin or Lucy Collier 

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APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTIONS

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    Minutes:

    Apologies were received from Zully Grant-Duff and Bill Chapman.

     

    Richard Wilson substituted Zully Grant-Duff and Chris Pitt substituted for Bill Chapman

2/16

MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING: pdf icon PDF 127 KB

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    To agree the minutes as a true record of the meeting.

    Minutes:

    The minutes of the previous meeting were approved as a true record of the meeting.

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DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

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    To receive any declarations of disclosable pecuniary interests from Members in respect of any item to be considered at the meeting.

     

    Notes:

    ·         In line with the Relevant Authorities (Disclosable Pecuniary Interests) Regulations 2012, declarations may relate to the interest of the member, or the member’s spouse or civil partner, or a person with whom the member is living as husband or wife, or a person with whom the member is living as if they were civil partners and the member is aware they have the interest.

    ·         Members need only disclose interests not currently listed on the Register of Disclosable Pecuniary Interests.

    ·         Members must notify the Monitoring Officer of any interests disclosed at the meeting so they may be added to the Register.

    ·         Members are reminded that they must not participate in any item where they have a disclosable pecuniary interest. 

    Minutes:

    There were none.

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QUESTIONS AND PETITIONS

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    To receive any questions or petitions.

     

    Notes:

    1.    The deadline for Member’s questions is 12.00pm four working days before the meeting (state actual deadline).

    2.    The deadline for public questions is seven days before the meeting (state actual deadline).

    3.    The deadline for petitions was 14 days before the meeting, and no petitions have been received.

    Minutes:

    There were none.

5/16

RESPONSES FROM THE CABINET TO ISSUES REFERRED BY THE SCRUTINY BOARD pdf icon PDF 70 KB

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    Response from Cabinet on recommendations relating to Agency Workers is included at Item 5A. 

    Minutes:

    The Cabinet response was noted.

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RECOMMENDATIONS TRACKER AND FORWARD WORK PROGRAMME pdf icon PDF 11 KB

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    The Committee is asked to monitor progress on the implementation of recommendations from previous meetings, and to review its Forward Work Programme.

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

     

     

    1.    The Chairman drew attention to the forward work programme for March and stressed the importance of receiving further information regarding the Strategic Risk Register to update the work programme.

     

    2.    Property Strategy – The focus would be on investments, looking at the original objectives of the investment strategy and progress against them. This was scheduled for April. 

     

    3.    Shareholder Board: It was noted that the External Auditor’s review of Surrey Choices would be going to Audit & Governance Committee in February.  The Chairman would consider how scrutiny should be involved and planned to meet with the Chairman of Audit & Governance (Stuart Selleck) to discuss, amongst other things, the respective roles of security Boards and the Committee.

     

    4.    It was agreed that the Board would trial an information bulletin to share information about some of the issues currently included in the recommendations tracker.

     

     

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BUDGET MONITORING pdf icon PDF 74 KB

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    To consider the latest budget monitoring and financial outturn report.

     

    Report to follow.

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Declarations of Interest:

    None

     

    Witnesses:

    David Hodge, Leader of the Council

    Kevin Kilburn, Deputy Chief Finance Officer

     

    Key points raised in the discussion:

     

    1.    The Deputy Chief Finance Officer introduced the report by explaining that Scrutiny Boards had met with finance officers, Cabinet Members and senior officers to understand the financial prospects regarding the upcoming year for the Council. It was explained to the Board that during recent Sub-Group meetings the key challenge was for all services to analyse different systems and processes in order to save 1.5% per year.

     

    2.    The Leader of the Council stated that the final budget figure for 2016 would be finalised on Tuesday 9th February 2016. In addition to this he stated that Members of the Board should endorse in the budget plan. It was noted that the Chief Executive, Leader and Service managers would stop all non-essential spending.

     

    3.    A Member of the Board questioned how the overspend would be reduced over the next year, and it was noted that this could be achieved by delaying main property maintenance and recruitment of staff.

     

    4.    The Board noted the report.

     

     

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REVENUE & CAPITAL BUDGET 2016/17 to 2020/21 pdf icon PDF 70 KB

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    To present the Revenue and Capital Budget to the Council Overview Board, ahead of a decision being made by Cabinet on 2 February 2016.

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Declarations of interest:

    None

     

    Witnesses:

     

    David Hodge, Leader of the Council

    Kevin Kilburn, Deputy Chief Finance Officer

     

    Key points raised in the discussion:

     

    1.   The Chairman of the Board introduced and thanked the Deputy Finance Officer for the final report. Members expressed disappointment at the lateness of papers and agreed that it was difficult to digest them in a short amount of time. The Leader of the Council stated that the figures were changing daily and no information was available until the 17th December 2015. In addition to this he stated that there could potentially be a 3.99% increase in Council Tax. An increase in Council Tax was considered by some Members to be the only feasible way to fund the increasing demand in order to keep running statutory services. It was noted that this report was part of an ongoing process and the Board would continue to have a role in scrutinising budgets. It was highlighted to the Board Members that no decisions would be made until the final financial settlement had been agreed.

     

    2.   The Board were informed by the Leader of the Council that Surrey County Council was currently awaiting the outcome of a request for a £20 million transition funding grant to be agreed by the government. A Member of the Board questioned the outcome of the financial state if Surrey County Council does not receive the transitional funding of 20 million. The Leader of the Council stated that an emergency Cabinet meeting would be arranged if the additional funding was not received.

     

     

    3.   The Deputy Chief Finance Officer informed the Board that the overall figure of savings needed in the next financial year was £85million. Members expressed great concerns over the sum and there was a discussion regarding ways in which savings could be made. A Member stated that Surrey residents provide the second largest amount of taxation in the Country and local taxation should be spent on local residents.

     

    4.   The Chairman of the Council Overview Board invited the Chairmen of each Scrutiny Board to comment on the current financial situation for the services within their remit. The Chairman of the Economic Prosperity, Environment & Highways (EPEH) stated he had nothing to add until the final figure was revealed. The Chairman of the Education & Skills Board stated that there was a particular focus on SEND (special educational needs and disabilities) transport review due to the forecast overspends.

     

    5.   The Chairman of the Resident Experience Scrutiny Board informed the Board that he recently met with services including Surrey Fire and Rescue, Trading Standards and Cultural Services to discuss the financial budget. The Board would be focusing their March 2016 meeting on the future of the Library Service.

     

    Bob Gardener left the meeting at 11.05am and returned at 11.13am.

     

    6.    It was highlighted by the Social Care Services Board Chairman that there was currently a lack of frontline staff for Adult Social Care and Children’s Service, which had been ongoing for a number of years. This was  ...  view the full minutes text for item 8/16

9/16

ORBIS PUBLIC LAW pdf icon PDF 42 KB

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    To scrutinise the business case for a shared legal service between Brighton & Hove City Council, East Sussex County Council, Surrey County Council and West Sussex County Council.

     

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Declarations of interest:

     

    None

     

    Witnesses:

     

    Sarah Baker, Legal Services Manager.

    David Hodge, Leader of the Council.

     

    Key points raised in the discussion:

     

    1.    The Legal Services Manager introduced the report by explaining the approval needed for the creation of shared legal services between Brighton and Hove City Council, East Sussex County Council, Surrey County Council and West Sussex County Council. She stated that the Legal Team was currently in the process of identifying potential savings which they could deliver, whilst maintaining a steady service. The team was investigating a joint committee to be put in place which would be used as a project Board for Members. A business plan was said to be essential for this strategy to go ahead. The development of Orbis Public Law was said to be an ambitious programme of change to bring together four legal services in one single integrated service with a common culture.

     

    2.    It was noted that Orbis Public Law aimed to achieve a saving of 10% of net operating costs of each of the constituent councils by 2020. The Legal Services Manager stressed that the team were currently focusing on income generation by looking at different strengths and weaknesses from different Councils. Surrey County Council’s Legal Services had an annual budget of £3.5 million and generated income of around £0.3 million per year. It was noted that each legal team carried out some external work for other public bodies which brought in extra revenue, keeping the cost of the service down for Councils. In addition, it was stated that the four authorities spent around £2million per annum on external legal advice.

     

     

    3.    The Legal Services Manager informed the Board that there was a compelling need for Councils to explore more radical options for delivering services. Members of the Board agreed that it was an ongoing complex and time consuming task.

     

    Recommendations:

     

    The Council Overview Board was broadly supportive of the plans set out in the Cabinet report, and made the following comments and recommendations to Cabinet:

     

    a)    welcomes the proposal to set up a shared legal service, to be known as Orbis Public Law;

    b)    wishes to emphasise the importance of careful monitoring of the anticipated 10% savings, as set out in the business case.

     

    The Board was interested in understanding more as the partnership developed, and requested that when available, the more detailed plan including saving targets, budget and milestones be circulated to Members of the Council Overview Board.

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DATE OF NEXT MEETING

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    The next meeting of the Committee will be held at 10am on 2 March 2016.

    Minutes:

    2 March 2016.

     

    Meeting ended at 12.45pm.