Agenda and minutes

Children and Education Select Committee OLD - Wednesday, 6 September 2017 10.00 am

Venue: Ashcombe Suite, County Hall, Penrhyn Road, Kingston upon Thames, KT1 2DN

Contact: Dominic Mackie, Scrutiny Officer - Email: dominic.mackie@surreycc.gov.uk  Richard Plummer, Committee Assistant - Email: richard.plummer@surreycc.gov.uk

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1.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTIONS

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    Minutes:

    Apologies were received from Chris Botten, Liz Bowes, Stuart Getty, Stephen Green, Simon Parr and Mike Wainhouse. Tim Hall Subsituted for Liz Bowes.

2.

MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING: 8 MARCH 2017 pdf icon PDF 473 KB

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    To agree the minutes of the previous meeting of the Committee’s predecessor, the Education and Skills Board, as a true and accurate record of proceedings.

    Minutes:

    The minutes of the previous meeting were approved as a true and accurate record of proceedings.

3.

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

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    All Members present are required to declare, at this point in the meeting or as soon as possible thereafter:

          I.        Any disclosable pecuniary interests and / or

        II.        Other interests arising under the Code of Conduct in respect of any item(s) of business being considered at this meeting

     

    NOTES:

    ·         Members are reminded that they must not participate in any item where they have a disclosable pecuniary interest

    ·         As well as an interest of the Member, this includes any interest, of which the Member is aware, that relates to the Member’s spouse or civil partner (or any person with whom the Member is living as a spouse or civil partner)

    ·         Members with a significant personal interest may participate in the discussion and vote on that matter unless that interest could be reasonably regarded as prejudicial.

     

    Minutes:

    There were no declarations of interest received.

4.

QUESTIONS AND PETITIONS

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    To receive any questions or petitions.

    Notes:

    1.    The deadline for Member’s questions is 12.00pm four working days before the meeting (31 August 2017).

     

    2.    The deadline for public questions is seven days before the meeting (30 August 2017)

     

    3.    The deadline for petitions was 14 days before the meeting, and no petitions have been received.

     

    Minutes:

    There were no questions or petitions received.

5.

RESPONSES FROM THE CABINET TO ISSUES REFERRED BY THE SELECT COMMITTEE

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    There have been no responses from Cabinet.

    Minutes:

    There were no responses from Cabinet.

6.

CHILDREN, SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES COMMISSIONING PLAN pdf icon PDF 171 KB

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    Purpose of report: Policy Development and Review

    Supplementary annex to follow.

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Witnesses:

    Belinda Newth, Head of Quality & Experience
    Will Balakrishnan,
    Head of Insight & Innovation
    Frank Offer, Head of Market Strategy
    Clare Curran, Cabinet Member for Children
    Mary Lewis, Cabinet Member for Education

    Declarations of Interest:

    None

    Key points raised during the discussion:

    1. Officers outlined the Children, Schools and Families Commissioning plan, noting that it set out the challenges and service delivery objectives for SEND services. It was highlighted that this Plan feeds into the work of the Children and Young People Partnership Strategy.

    2. It was noted by officers that the service was working closely with a significant number of partners to ensure that the service was working to deliver in a cost effective manner.

    3. Several outcomes of the commissioning plan were highlighted by officers as key points of improvement:

      1. Improving outcomes for children and vulnerable groups; and
      2. Managing growing demand

    4. It was noted that there was an increase in needs based demand, but that the service must work to manage this growing need with the requirement to make budgetary savings. It was stressed that Early Help would be a crucial aspect of ensuring delivery.
    5. Officers highlighted that the service was shifting to a strength based model of delivery, highlighting the Safer Surrey practice guide as an example. It was explained that these models would ensure that there was sufficient support available to improve outcomes for service users.

    6. The Committee questioned the proposed new approach of working with families. It was highlighted that there was a requirement to change the expectations of families and young people to how services are offered and delivered. Officers and the Cabinet Members stressed that this was a key concern, and that there was a need for a significant culture change in the service to achieve this. However, it was stressed that the service would maintain an in depth level of assessment to determine the needs of a child and what approach is working for the individual child. The Cabinet Member for Children also highlighted that there would be a fundamental change in how the service works with families, but that the service was looking at more inclusive ways of working with them to help resolve this issue.

    7. The Committee questioned the disparity between the quality of education in general in comparison with poorer outcomes for vulnerable children. It was stressed that the service recognised the contradiction between these two outcomes and that it was a shortcoming of the service that needed to be addressed as part of this new strategy of commissioning.

    8. The Cabinet Member for Education noted that the service, as part of its new Commissioning Plan, was moving to a more data focussed approach. It was highlighted that there was a greater requirement for provision of disadvantaged children and that improved datasets would help the service focus on individual children’s needs more effectively and that the service needed to define the datasets used.

    9. Officers responded to Member concerns regarding places to meet for families and young people. It was stressed that these were important  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.

7.

YOUTH SERVICES - GOVERNANCE AND BUSINESS MANAGEMENT ARRANGEMENTS FOLLOW UP AUDIT 2016/17 pdf icon PDF 79 KB

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    Purpose of the report: To review the summary of audit findings and Management Action Plan produced as a result of an internal audit review of the Youth Services- Governance and Business Management Arrangements Follow up Audit.

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Witnesses:

    Nick Charalambous, Young People and Families Strategic Lead – East
    David John,
    Audit Performance Manager
    Tasneem Ali, Auditor

    Declarations of Interest:

    None

    Key points raised during the discussion:

    1. Officers outlined the actions undertaken by the service to resolve the recommendations highlighted as a priority. The youth services officers noted improvement in governance arrangements and continued work regarding the resolution of phone contract misuse.

    2. The Audit Performance Manager highlighted that the risk register and ratings that had been assigned by the youth services had been monitored by auditors to ensure progress.

    3. Auditors noted that the ongoing self-audit was working to resolve longstanding issues undertaken by the service. It was also noted that internal audit had not yet undertaken a follow up audit, but that there would be one undertaken in future to monitor actions taken. However, auditors noted the positive progress highlighted in the self-audit.

    4. Members questioned the misuse of mobile technology within the service. It was queried whether lessons learnt from the recuperating of misuses in mobile technology could be shared with other services to ensure good practice. Youth service officers stressed that they were sharing this good practice data with staff in youth services and with other services. Auditors also noted that they were also highlighting evidences of abuse within other services and ensuring that any irregularities were resolved.

    5. The Committee were satisfied the current progress of youth services and highlighted that they welcomed a follow up audit.

     

    Recommendations

    1. That the Committee notes the audit report and Management Action Plan and requests that the follow up audit is shared with the Committee on its publication.

     

8.

SEND DEVELOPMENT PLAN (2017 REFRESH) pdf icon PDF 69 KB

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    Purpose of report: Scrutiny of Services and Budgets and Policy Development and Review.

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Witnesses:

    Julie Stockdale, SEND & School Organisation Strategic Lead

    Declarations of Interest:

    None

    Key points raised during the discussion:

    1. Officers outlined the background of the Special Educational Needs and Disabilities reforms legislated by central government, noting that there was a requirement for the publication of a local offer in response to reforms in 2014. The SEND 2020 plan was published as an additional to this requirement and detailed the Surrey local offer. Officers followed that the plan put to the select committee was a refresh of this plan to take into account the Ofsted/Care Quality Commission (CQC) inspection of SEND services in October 2016 and the long term recommendations of the Written Statement of Action published in May 2017.

    2. It was noted by officers that the SEND Improvement Board and SEND Partnership Board had influenced the changes in the SEND Development Plan. Officers noted that there was a culture of collaboration being developed within the service between the Children’s Services and partners. Members highlighted and expressed appreciation for the collaborative nature of these groups.

    3. Officers highlighted opportunities to review the SEND services offer, noting that there was a potential to look into options to reduce costs to these services.

    4. Officers highlighted that there were several (remove text) special schools being expanded and 2 successful new specialist free school bids in Surrey as part of the Development Plan. Members questioned where the funding was being allocated from. Officers explained that there was funding awarded by the Department for Education (DfE) to build two special needs Free Schools. It was also noted that specialist, purpose-built “Cullum Centres” have been  funded by the Cullum Family Trust, with an SCC contribution, to serve children with high functioning autism, highlighting that the service was innovating to fund new ways of supporting Special Education Needs children.

    5. Officers noted that there was demand within schools to deliver inclusive SEND services. Officers noted (remove text) that an index for inclusion had been developed for SCC in conjunction with all schools and partners.

    6. Officers highlighted that there was a requirement to balance inclusion with the cost of the service to ensure that there was a quality and cost effective service in future.

    7. Officers explained that the refreshed plan was to be published online in conjunction with the local offer.

     

    Recommendations:

     

    1. That the Select Committee to endorses the draft SEND Development Plan for publication.

9.

SPECIAL EDUCATIONAL NEEDS AND DISABILITIES IMPROVEMENT TASK AND FINISH GROUP pdf icon PDF 66 KB

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    Purpose of the report: To propose a Special Educational Needs and Disabilities (SEND) Improvement Task and Finish Group to the committee based on the terms of reference outlined and ask for Members to consider their interest in joining the group.

     

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Witnesses:

    None

    Declarations of Interest:

    None

    Key points raised during the discussion:

    1. Members noted the terms of reference of the Task and Finish Group and recommended that they be submitted to the Overview and Budget Scrutiny Board for approval.

    2. Members noted that the proposed Membership for the Task and Finish Group was as follows:
      1. Mark Brett-Warburton
      2. Chris Townsend
      3. Christopher Botten
      4. Tina Mountain
      5. Yvonna Lay

     

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PERFORMANCE MEMBER REFERENCE GROUP pdf icon PDF 141 KB

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    Purpose of the report: To propose a Performance Member Reference Group to the committee based on the terms of reference outlined and ask for Members to consider their interest in joining the group.

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Witnesses:

    None

    Declarations of Interest:

    None

    Key points raised during the discussion:

    1. Members noted the terms of reference of the Task and Finish Group and recommended that they be submitted to the Overview and Budget Scrutiny Board for approval with the addition of an emphasis for Key Performance Indicator analysis.

    2. Members noted that the proposed Membership for the Task and Finish Group was as follows:
      1. Mark Brett-Warburton
      2. Chris Townsend
      3. Tim Evans
      4. Jeff Harris
      5. Charlotte Morley

     

11.

FORWARD WORK PROGRAMME AND RECOMMENDATIONS TRACKER pdf icon PDF 161 KB

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    The Board is asked to review and approve the Forward Work Programme and provide comment as required.

     

    Additional documents:

    Minutes:

    Members noted and approved the forward work programme.

12.

DATE OF THE NEXT MEETING

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    The next public meeting of the committee will be held on 17 November 2017at County Hall.

    Minutes:

    The next meeting of the Committee will be held on 17 November 2017 at County Hall.