To agree the minutes of the previous meeting
as a true and accurate record of proceedings.
Minutes:
The
minutes were agreed as an accurate record of the
meeting.
3.
Declarations of Interest
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All
Members present are required to declare, at this point in the
meeting or
as
soon as possible thereafter:
i.any disclosable pecuniary interests and /
or;
ii.other interests arising under the Code of Conduct in
respect of any item(s) of business being considered at this
meeting
NOTES:
·Members are reminded that they must not participate
in any item where they have a disclosable pecuniary
interest;
·as well as an interest of the Member, this includes
any interest, of which the Member is aware, that relates to the
Member’s spouse or civil partner (or any person with whom the
Member is living as a spouse or civil partner); and
·Members with a significant personal interest may
participate in the discussion and vote on that matter unless that
interest could be reasonably regarded as prejudicial.
Minutes:
None received.
4.
Questions & Petitions
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To receive any questions or petitions
Notes:
1.The deadline for Member’s questions is 12.00pm
four working days before the meeting (Thursday 7
February).
2.The deadline for public questions is seven days
before the meeting (Wednesday 6 February).
3.The deadline for petitions was 14 days before the
meeting, and no petitions have been received.
Minutes:
None received.
5.
Response from the Cabinet to Issues Referred by the Select Committee
This
report describes the Adult Social Care Transformation Programme,
the expected changes and transformation of Adult Social Care in
Surrey and the anticipated impact and challenges.
Simon White, Interim Director
of Adult Social Care
Mike Boyle, Interim Director of
Commissioning and Transformation (Adult Social Care)
Will House, Head of Finance
(Adult Social Care)
Sonya Sellar, Area Director (Adult Social
Care)
Peter Tempest, Interim
Assistant Director for Learning Disabilities
Liz Uliasz, Deputy Director
(Adult Social Care)
Key
points raised during the discussion:
An
introduction to the Transformation Programme report was provided by
officers, who stated that it aimed to make sure the Council
delivered its statutory care responsibilities without tightening
its eligibility criteria or adversely affecting those who rely on
its services.
Members
heard about the financial implications of the Transformation
Programme, with the Interim Director of Adult Social Care
highlighting the progress made by the department. The Committee
were told that Adult Social Care (ASC) was set the task of saving
£10.7m and are currently forecast a £16.8m underspend,
with that underspend likely to be larger come the end of the
year.
A Member
of the Committee asked whether any elements of what is being
proposed have been proven to work elsewhere, or whether ASC are
starting with a completely new model. The Interim Director of Adult
Social Care explained that much of the work was already underway in
the department before he arrived, and that it was based
significantly on two sources. The first was the work that John
Bolton, Visiting Professor at Oxford Brookes University’s
Institute of Public Care, had presented through a publication
called Six Steps to Managing Demand in Adult Social Care, while the
second was concerned with the ‘In Control’ work that
the Council had previously done with younger age adults. The
Interim Director of Adult Social Care went on to talk about the
‘person-centred’ philosophy behind the Transformation
Programme, which was concerned with investing in people’s
independence while simultaneously dealing with demographic growth
and financial pressures.
As a
follow-up question, a Member of the Committee questioned the role
of the Social Care Institute for Excellence (SCIE) and asked how
they would be working with the Council. The Interim Executive
Director of Adult Social Care replied that working with SCIE would
allow the Council to take an active part in networks that would let
them work with other authorities that were implementing similar
proposals.
The
Interim Executive Director told the Committee about the activities
being undertaken to shape the market for preventative services,
discussing how Adult Social Care meet regularly with a range of
providers.
Regarding
the quoted 5% reduction in the number of people using adult social
care services, a Member of the Committee questioned ongoing
demographic challenges and what impact these may have on this
forecast target. The Interim Executive Director discussed the
difficulties concerning demographics. The greatest pressure came
from adults with learning difficulties – for example, the
number of people cared for by their parents for years before
presenting themselves to social care services. With life expectancy
also increasing, this represented a challenge that the
Transformation Programme was seeking ...
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Referring
to the Committee’s Forward Work Plan, the Chairman noted that
the Committee formally asked for a Transformation Programme
performance dashboard to be added. A discussion was also had about
formulating a more dynamic risk assessment process, with a clearer
method of identifying risks and resulting impacts.
The
Committee also discussed writing to the government about the budget
for the recruitment campaign, which Members felt was not enough if
they were to adequately fill all of the available job
positions.
Actions to be taken/recommendations:
None.
8.
Date of the Next Meeting
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The
next meeting of the Select Committee will be held on 5 June 2019 in
the Ashcombe Suite at County
Hall.
Minutes:
Members noted that the next
meeting of the Adults and Lifelong Learning Select Committee would
take place on 5 June 2019.