Declarations of
interest:
None
Witnesses:
Barry McKay, Hymans Robertson
Key points
raised during the discussion:
- The Strategic Finance Manager
(Pension Fund and Treasury) introduced the report, providing an
overview of the actuarial assumptions to be used in the next
actuarial valuation of the Pension Fund. He also introduced three
different models of establishing discount rates (Gilts plus, CPI
plus and the Economic model), and outlined the advantages and
disadvantages of each one.
- It was noted that the Economic model
was not used widely amongst Pension Funds as it was considered to
be more generous and less prudent than the other models.
- The representative from Hymans
Robertson provided an update to the Committee on the 2016 valuation
process. He stated that Hymans Robertson had reviewed their
valuation method in the previous year and decided, although no
model was perfect, that Gilts plus model was the best
available.
- The representative also set out
Hymans Robertson’s two step approach to valuation. Firstly,
they set a funding target using the Gilts plus model and the
assumptions set out in the report. Secondly, they set a
contribution rate by running over 5000 assumptions.
- The Chairman queried whether the
contribution rate modelling was based on a Gilts yield or CPI
model. The representative from Hymans Robertson responded that it
was on a Gilts yield curve. A CPI curve was not yet widely
available and would therefore take more time to create. He added
that the curve used did not impact on the discount rate, simply the
way it was presented.
- The Committee had a discussion,
querying the benefits of the CPI plus model vs the Gilts plus model. A number of points where
made including:
- Whether the Gilts plus model was
proving to be too prudent and therefore not offering the best deal
to employees, and ultimately Council Tax payers.
- Whether it was sensible to use a
Gilts Plus Model when so much of the
fund was invested in assets.
- That the distorted market tended to
favour the CPI plus model.
- The impact of using the Gilt plus
model on public perception, in that the CPI model tends to produce
a smaller number.
- Whether the Gilt plus model
represented an accurate view of what is happening with
inflation.
- Whether the Gilt plus model was
overestimating the funds liabilities.
- A number of Members acknowledged the
fact that stabilisation had been successful in setting a stable
contribution rate – and that this was something that was
important to employers.
- The Vice-Chairman stated that any
measure chosen could be subject to future distortions; it just
happened that current distortions could be seen in the Gilt
market.
- The Chief Finance Officer stated
that Officers did receive queries from the public when accounts
were published regarding the size of the deficit and liabilities.
Any change to how they were presented would need to be
explained.
- The majority of the Committee
Members expressed preference for the CPI model. It was felt that if
the fund liabilities were linked to CPI, valuation should be linked
to CPI as well.
- It was agreed to look at this item
again at the May meeting with a view to making a final decision on
which model to use in the future.
Actions/further
information to be provided:
None.
Resolved:
- That the Pension Fund Committee
considers whether to move to the CPI plus model at their next
meeting in May 2016.