Officers:
Alex Sanders, Planning Regulation 3 Team Leader
Caroline Smith, Planning Development Manager
Nancy El-Shatoury, Principal
Lawyer
Speakers:
Sally Lawrence, made representation in objection to the
application. The following key points were made:
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Explained that she was the mother of Simon Lawrence
who was 26 years old.
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That there was no provision for care in Surrey which
was why her son had to go out of county and that the facilities as
were designed in the original plan were sufficient to provide
adequate care.
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Noted that the proposed reduction in size of the
activity centre and the quality of the roof material proposed in
the current plan significantly reduced the efficiency of the
project.
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To remove the horticultural area is to deprive the
young of things that would enhance their lives.
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People with autism need space and she wants Linden
Farm to be a success.
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Noted that the plan for the facility should revert
to the original plan submitted in order to be considered fit for
purpose.
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It was stressed that the objector was offering
£360k funding from the Simon Trust in order to aid in filling
the shortfalls in the plan, but that the county council was not
accepting funding.
Peter Lawrence, made representation in objection to the
application. The following key points were made:
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He suggested that facilities as they were designed
would be limited and that this would have a significant impact on
the wellbeing of those using the facilities.
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He noted that there had been no traffic management
analysis undertaken to reflect the increased traffic from the
requirement for residents to move offsite more, due to the
reduction in activity facilities.
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The objector noted that building be delayed until
the Simon Trust can aid with maximising the potential of the
facility.
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Queried why no comments had been received from
Historic England and that the building included within the
proposals does not integrate with the local landscape.
Christopher Wilmshurst, the Agent for the application,
raised the following key points:
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The original justification remained- the developer
would provide much needed accommodation for young people in Surrey.
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He stressed that the changes to the development as
proposed were minor and that the site was fit for purpose under
current plans.
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The facilities included within the application are
suitable for Linden Farm.
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He highlighted that materials proposed for
construction of the roof were not out of character with the local
aesthetic and that they would not reduce the viability of the
site.
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Overall the charges were minor and would not
compromise the development.
Liz
Uliasz, Deputy Director of Adult Social Care (ASC) at Surrey County
Council, raised the following key
points:
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The Deputy Director reminded the Committee that
social care was not relevant to the planning permission.
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The Deputy Director noted that there was a shortage
of accommodation in Surrey for young people with autism and that
too many young people were placed out of county at a high
costs.
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It was noted by the Deputy Director that the current
proposed provision was adequate and that it was necessary to begin
work quickly so young people can move in by summer 2019.
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Adult social care is supportive and satisfied of the
planning permission and believe it can provide the functional
spaces needed to support young people.
Key points
raised in the discussion:
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Officers noted that changes in the proposed
application were minor material amendments to the previous
permission granted in January 2017 and the principle of the
development remained as previously permitted. It was explained that
there would be a change of material from brick to cladding, a
reduction in the size of the activity centre and some landscaping
amendments.
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Officers noted that the project would not have a
significant impact on the green belt but that there would be a
change to design and visual amenity. However the proposal would be
in keeping with the site and the surrounding area and would accord
with policy. It is also not expected for traffic movements to and
from the site to increase.
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Members noted their general support for the facility
but felt that the changes that were proposed to the application did
not represent a minor change and questioned whether these changes
would harm long term viability of the project. Officers stressed
that the reduction to the size of the facilities represented a
small reduction in the overall size and quality of the project.
Officers confirmed that there was no set definition in guidance on
minor amendments.
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It was queried if the horticultural elements removed
from the current application could be added to the application at a
later date. It was confirmed that this would be possible. Officers
had been advised that transport movements would not change with the
new application even if residents have to be taken off site.
The Chairman adjourned the meeting for officer
advice at 12:09 and reconvened the meeting at 12:15.
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Officers explained that the existing permission was
already being implemented and as there was no increase to the size
of the building, what was being constructed was within the bands of
development. It was confirmed that this was not a retrospective
application.
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The Vice-Chairman reminded the Committee of the
importance of focusing on planning grounds and reminded Members
that the application had already been permitted. The Committee were
reminded that the application accords with planning policy.
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A Member of the Committee supported this view
stating that the Committee was straying out of planning matters and
that the adult social care elements was not an issue for the
Committee.
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Officers confirmed that the materials being used for
the building would have to meet building regulation
requirements.
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A Member of the Committee stated the reason for
reducing the size of the application was due to financial issues.
There were also concerns around the change of material from brick
to cladding and the possible safety issues with this. A Member
questioned the suitability of building materials for the roof and
suggested that the adverse effect from noise impact. For this
reason the Member did not feel this was a minor amendment.Officers
explained that the application could not be refused but would need
to be referred back to the service. Fire matters were also not a
matter for the Committee and fell within the remit of building
regulations.
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A Member of the Committee proposed to refer the
application back to the service. The Principal Lawyer referring back to
planning code, reminded members the application could only be
referred back to the service on planning grounds.
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Councillor Andrew Povey stated that he wanted to
refer the application back on grounds that the changes being
proposed are not minor and the changes make the development
unsuitable for purpose. This was seconded by Councillor
Bramhall. Officers stated that the reasons given were not planning
grounds. The planning officer stated that the application could
possibly be referred back to the service arguing that the
application is contrary to Policy D1 in terms of the appearance of
the buildings.
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Officers confirmed that there would be a 40%
reduction to the size of the activity centre only and not the whole
application site.
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There was a discussion around possible reasons for
referral back to the service with the Principal Lawyer advising
that she had not heard any planning reasons for referral and that
the applicant would require planning reasons from the Committee in
order to make changes.
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A Member queried if the application can be deferred
for discussions between the applicant and the Simon Trust to take
place. The Principal Lawyer stated that this was not a planning
reason to defer the application.
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Officers stated that the application could be
referred back to the service in relation to Policy D1 and D4 of the
Waverley Borough Local Plan 2002 and Policy TD1 of the Waverley
Borough Local Plan Part 1: Strategic Policies and Sites 2018 in
terms of the appearance of the buildings.
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Councillor Andrew Povey proposed to refer the
application back to the service on grounds of Policy D1 and D4. A
vote on this motion was taken with 8 votes in support of the
motion. The motion was therefore carried and application referred
back to the service.
RESOLVED:
That
application WA/2018/1044, Linden Farm, Rosemary Lane, Alfold,
Cranleigh, GU6 8EU be REFERRED back to the service
on Policy grounds D1 and D4 of the Waverley
Borough Local Plan 2002.
The
Committee adjourned at 12.45pm
Edward
Hawkins left the meeting at 12.45pm
Keith
Taylor left the meeting at 12.45pm