Witnesses:
David Munro, Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner
Key points
raised in the discussion:
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A Member remarked that earlier this year there was a
report by the All-Party Parliamentary Group
(APPG) on Knife Crime which linked the
reduction in the amount of activities available for young people-
through cuts in grant provisions - with knife crime. In response
the PCC noted that knife crime in Surrey was low, however the fear
of being stabbed by young people in Surrey was second on their
anxiety rating behind mental health. He reported that there was not
a major correlation between knife crime and closing youth services,
but education in schools was important.
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The PCC also pointed out that preventative work was
essential as although knife crime was more prevalent in London, it
travelled out of the capital to counties such as Surrey. He also
informed the Panel that he had pushed for a portion of the
Governments’ £100 million of ‘Surge’
funding - of which the majority went to urban areas, London and the
West Midlands for example- to tackle knife crime to be allocated to
Surrey.
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Members were also informed that Surrey Police was
running a knife amnesty campaign that week where anyone carrying a
knife could surrender it anonymously to police stations. This
included: Woking, Guildford and Reigate, to which Members were
concerned as it was a long way to travel for those on the outskirts
of Surrey. The campaign recognised that there was a higher
correlation between knife carrying and being stabbed, the PCC
commented that he had made a video the day before the Panel to
widely publicise it.
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A Member raised the issue of the decreasing positive
outcome rate of ‘high harm’ crimes and asked what the
category consisted of. The PCC stated that it included a number of
categories. In response, a Member stated that those categories
should be included in an updated Appendix B:
Crime Measures Requested by the Panel, on both the Levels of
Crime and Positives Outcomes. The PCC
recalled that he had six-weekly performance meetings with the Chief
Constable where ‘high harm’ crime was taken seriously
and he would look into expanding Appendix B in a future report to
the Panel.
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Concerning the average time to answer 101 calls, a
Member noted that many in his borough of Runnymede felt it
worthless without any follow up. In response, PCC confirmed that
there were statistics available on the nature of the calls; these
would be reported by borough if available at the next Informal
meeting. The PCC extended an invitation to the whole Panel to visit
the Surrey Police Contact Centre, he also informed the Member that
all 101 calls were recorded and he would follow-up specific calls
and cases he may have.
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The PCC commented that half of all calls to 101 were
not police matters. There had been an improvement of 101 use and
handling over the last three years- made a priority by the Chief
Constable and PC- with a shorter waiting time and there was
information given to callers on their number in the queue for
greater clarity. Other forces often visited Surrey Police to find
out its strategy on 101 handling.
Councillor Andrew Povey returned at 12.05pm
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In response to a Member question, the PCC explained
that every individual post was vetted to a varying degree which
included employees within partnership agreements and due to a high
volume vetting took a long time.
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A Member raised the issue of parking controls in
Reigate that in his councillor surgeries he had been approached by
two wheelchair users who had to go onto main roads to get round
parked cars. In response the PCC recommended the recent
parliamentary Transport Select Committee report on pavement parking
which called for a revision of parking laws. The PCC urged the
Member to refer to him on specific issues concerning parking. The
PCC would shortly be having a meeting next week at Reigate and
Banstead Borough Council with parking officers as a pilot
concerning the revision of parking laws.
Actions/Further information to be provided:
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The PCC would include the other categories
concerning ‘high harm’ crimes in an updated
Appendix B: Crime Measures Requested by the Panel,
on both the Levels of Crime and Positives
Outcomes in a later report.
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R47/19 - Statistics on 101 calls would be
reported at the next Informal meeting and by borough if
possible.
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R48/19 -
Democratic Services will liaise with the OPCC
for the whole Panel to visit the Surrey Police Contact
Centre.