Witnesses:
Anna D’Alessandro,
Director of Corporate Finance
Mr Mel Few, Cabinet Member for
Finance
Dr Zully Grant-Duff, Cabinet
Member for Corporate Support
Nicola Kilvington,
Director of Intelligence,
Analytics and Insight
Key
points raised during the discussion:
- The Committee heard
from the Director of Insight, Analytics and Intelligence, who
explained that the report represented a snapshot in time and that
officers were currently in the process of collecting information
for Q2 but were not yet in a position to share that.
- Members examined in
detail the service delivery measures as outlined in the Q1
performance report. Discussing indicator ASC 05, the Director of
Insight, Analytics and Intelligence explained that this was a
primary focus of the adult social care transformation programme.
The Director of Corporate Finance added that adult social care was
travelling under the trajectory of a balanced budget and there was
currently no underspend being identified in the budget. Responding
to a question from the Chairman about the identification of
alternative ways of reaching the budget, the Director of Corporate
Finance explained that all services were focusing on the
transformation plan and the £82m of transformational savings
that had been identified in the last budget. Each service was
striving to deliver on the red risk savings. From a financial
perspective, adult social care were not overspending and were
focusing on the delivery of the savings they had been allocated as
part of the budget.
- Moving to indicator
ASC 07, the Director of Insight, Analytics and Intelligence
explained that recently compiled data indicated that the risk would
be shown as amber in the Q2 performance report. The service had
undertaken a diagnostic of their direct payment performance and
practice and had been putting improvements in place.
- The Vice-Chairman
spoke about the difficulty of understanding the seriousness of
issues without benchmarking figures that indicated the actual
financial cost associated. In response, the Director of Insight,
Analytics and Intelligence said that benchmarking information could
be provided for indicator ASC 07 but that the aim was to try and
keep the quarterly performance reports as concise as possible. It
was agreed that the Select Committee would request information on
specific indicators as and when they felt necessary.
- Responding to a
question about the gaps in RAG ratings relating to children’s
services indicators and whether ratings would be provided in the Q2
performance report, the Director of Insight, Analytics and
Intelligence told the Committee that that was the intention but
that they might end up being presented only in Q3 due to
complications with the data.
- The Chairman
highlighted indicator CTE 06, ‘Delivery of SFRS Safe and Well
visit programme’, and the related red RAG rating, and it was
agreed that he would raise the issue with the Chairman of the
relevant select committee. The Director of Insight, Analytics and
Intelligence informed the Committee that the Surrey Fire and Rescue
Service had explained that Q1 tended to be much busier
operationally than Q4 and the Safe and Well visits were completed
on top of operational duties. As a result, they were unable to
complete as many as they wanted. However, there had been a change
in the quality assurance process, which required the visits to be
audited before being marked as complete, and an additional 711
visits were submitted during Q1 but were not yet counted as being
complete due to that auditing process.
- Referring to
indicator CTE 04 and the latest result available at Q1 (1.87km), a
Member of the Committee questioned why the RAG rating was only
amber when the latest figures were so far behind both the latest
target and result this time last year. The Member also spoke about
indicator PH 01 and questioned the use of percentages as results,
as it was difficult for the Select Committee to properly understand
what those specific percentages were relating to and whether they
were good or bad.
- A Member of the
Committee asked for more information to be provided for indicator
PH 02 and was informed by the Director of Insight, Analytics and
Intelligence that this would be provided by Public
Health.
- Returning to
indicators CTE 03 and CTE 04, and related annual programmes, a
Member suggested that these and related programmes that were
working towards annual targets could instead show a rolling 12
months so that the performance could be viewed relative to a
full-year target, or for seasonal targets to be created so that
there was greater clarity.
- Discussing the HROD
indicators and the diversity of the Council’s workforce, the
Director of Insight, Analytics and Intelligence explained that the
Executive Director for Children, Lifelong Learning and Culture had
recently taken on the CLT lead for diversity and inclusion and a
lot of work was being done to help increase the diversity of the
workforce and connect with a diverse range of communities. She also
spoke about the Young Employee Network that had been set up in 2018
and that members of the Network had been to CLT to talk about the
issue. Work was also taking place to increase the number of
apprenticeships being offered.
- The Chairman
questioned why indicators Customer 01, Customer 04, RS 01 and RS 02
did not have targets. In response, the Director of Insight,
Analytics and Intelligence informed the Committee that she did not
think Customer 01 had a target set for Q2 but that this would be
confirmed with the service. Regarding Customer 04, this was a new
measure and work was being done to look at the target around that,
while traditionally targets had not been set for indicators such as
RS 01 and RS 02, as these were viewed as indicators that provided
useful information but could be heavily influenced by factors
outside of the Council’s control, making it difficult to set
reliable targets. A Member of the Committee agreed that it would be
difficult to set a useful target but expressed his disappointment
that the latest result for RS 02 was so low.
- The Committee heard
from the Cabinet Member for Corporate Support, who explained that
indicator Customer 01 concerned a piece of work that the customer
services team had just started, working in partnership with the
adult social care department. They often found that it was better
to wait a few months to see how things were working out before
setting a realistic target.
- Returning to
indicators RS 01 and RS 02, the Vice-Chairman asked for targets to
be provided as these could be compared with results from previous
years. He also asked for the RAG rating for indicator Customer 01
to be made grey rather than green as there was no specific target
being worked towards. The Vice-Chairman also suggested that
information was provided on an annual basis that showed how Surrey
County Council’s performance figures compared to similar
councils.
- A Member of the
Committee suggested that indicators RS 01 and RS 02 could be
combined as they both dealt with similar issues. The Director of
Insight, Analytics and Intelligence informed the Committee that all
of the suggestions made would be considered.
- The Committee turned
its attention to the transformation financial figures on page 31 of
the report, with the Vice-Chairman questioning how confident the
Cabinet Member for Finance was that he would be able to achieve the
target over the next six months, and whether there were any other
areas of the budget where further savings could be made. In
response, the Cabinet Member explained that the shortfall was now
£7.8m, and he went on to say that the report scheduled to go
to Cabinet showed that the level of achievement in blue and green
savings had risen on a monthly basis and that reds and blacks had
decreased slightly. The pressure was coming from children’s
services – particularly regarding SEND – and the
flattening out of spend in adult social care.
- Responding to a
question about why the overall Fire and Rescue Service rating on
page 34 was showing as green when the schedule, benefits, costs and
resources ratings were either amber or red, the Director of
Insight, Analytics and Intelligence explained that these were being
revised for the Q2 performance report so they would better reflect
the nature of where the programme was.
Actions/further information to be provided:
1.
The Director of Insight, Analytics and Intelligence
is to provide benchmarking information relating to indicator ASC
07.
2.
An officer from Public Health is to provide more
information on indicator PH 02.
Recommendations:
1.
The Committee is to receive further information on questions raised
regarding the Q1 2019/20 performance report (highlighted in
paragraphs 7, 8 and 11 of these minutes).
2.
Issues relating to the delivery of the SFRS Safe and Well visit
programme are to be raised with the Service and the relevant Select
Committee.
3.
Officers are to explore whether targets can be created for RS 01,
RS 02 and Customer 01 for inclusion in the next 2019/20 performance
report.
4.
The Committee is to receive on an annual basis information on how
Surrey County Council’s performance compares with other
councils.