Declarations of interest:
None
received.
Witnesses:
Esme Stallard – Climate Change Project
Manager
Simon Griffin –
Partnership Lead. Strategic Commissioning
Colin Kemp, Deputy
Leader
Mike Goodman, Cabinet
Member for Environment and Waste
Key
points raised during the discussion:
- The Vice-Chairman
summarised the work and final report of Surrey’s Greener
Future Task group explaining that in light of the declared climate
emergency and Surrey’s Community Vision, the Task Group had
explored actions that the Council could take to tackle climate
change. It had been concluded that Surrey County Council’s
current policies were inadequate and would not help realise the
county’s net zero carbon by 2050 target. The Vice-Chairman
stated that the ‘call to action’ summarised the
recommendations of the Task Group and what the Council should act
on in order to develop a more detailed strategy. It was also
specified that further and more extensive research would need to be
undertaken in collaboration with partners and residents to form a
realistic, costed and inclusive strategy to deliver net zero. To
achieve this, it had been suggested that a member reference group
be established with involvement from Cabinet.
- Committee Members
reiterated that whilst the report had a strong evidence base and
had communicated well the scale and seriousness of the challenge,
it was broad in its outlook and failed to set out in detail what
actions needed to happen to meet the climate targets.
- Members suggested a
bottom-up workshop approach to engage the public in concerted
positive action to fulfil the vision of the Task Group. Members
asked the Cabinet Member how they might engage the public and
empower them to work together to form part of the
solution.
- A Member questioned
whether the Task Group had public acceptance of what it had
suggested and asserted that residents must come first. It was
suggested that involving schools would be beneficial as engagement
of children can encourage adult engagement.
- Members of the Task
Group stressed that there also needed to be a cultural shift within
Surrey County Council itself and that all officers and councillors
should make positive behavioural changes.
- It was suggested that
engagement with Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP) and with central
government to clearly establish Surrey County Council’s aims
and the cost of meeting the targets of the Greener Future project
would be helpful. Concerns were raised that unless enough money was
invested, the work of the Task Group would simply remain a report
and not be acted upon. Members agreed that significant financial
support would be needed to achieve many of the recommendations
presented by the Task Group.
- Members of the
Committee stated that there needed to be a modal shift from private
to public transport, but this had been inhibited by buses being run
by the commercial sector, which lacked incentive to achieve climate
and air pollution targets. It was suggested that it would be
beneficial to give local authorities the means to implement how
buses run and this was something that central government should
look at.
- The Cabinet Member
for Environment and Waste thanked the officers who helped the Task
Group compile evidence and write the report. He reiterated
short-term future action should be twofold: developing a costed
strategy, with the Surrey Environment Partnership helping to
coordinate work across Surrey’s local authorities, and
encouraging and enabling residents to take positive
action.
- The Vice-Chairman
noted that Mr Essex had put a considerable amount of work into the
Task Group and recommended to Cabinet that it should involve Mr
Essex in all stages of work regarding Surrey’s climate
strategy.
- Officers informed the
Committee that in September a joint Surrey Leaders and Chief
Executives meeting had made a commitment to work together. A
working group was set up to establish a shared set of targets for
tackling climate change that the 12 local authorities could then
endorse. The committee were also told that there was a shortlist of
ten ideas to tackle the community design challenge that had been
raised in the Greener Future project.
- A Member stated that
they could not fully support the recommendations made by the
Greener Future Task Group in their current format, in particular
items seven, nine, ten and twelve, as he did not think that these
were achievable. Another Member also disagreed with the
recommendations of the Task Group and gave his support to a
suggested amendment to the recommendations. The Chairman asserted
that it was not possible procedurally for the committee to change
the recommendations of the Task Group. He emphasised that the
report was evidence based and underpinned by expert recommendations
and witness sessions with officers and therefore the Task Group had
agreed the recommendations to take forward to Cabinet. It was also
stated that there would be an opportunity for debate on the call
for action at the Council meeting in December and the Cabinet
meeting on 26 November.
- The Cabinet Member
for Environment and Waste endorsed the recommendations of the Task
Group because he agreed with the level of ambition in the action
plan.
[The
meeting adjourned for five minutes at the Chairman’s
request]
- Following the meeting
recommencing, the Chairman invited Committee Members to make
amendments to the proposed Select Committee recommendations as
follows:
a)
Endorse the Task Group’s findings;
b)
Recommend the Call for Action on page 37 to Cabinet
and Council for approval;
c)
Recommend that further work is undertaken by Council
officers to test the viability and appropriateness of the
recommendations listed in Annex 1 and develop policy as a
result.
- A Member stated that
if the council simply did what it considered achievable with
respect to the declared climate emergency, then it would not meet
its targets. The Member asserted that the call for action should be
ambitious and subsequently suggested that the third recommendation
of the committee be strengthened. He also stated that the plan
needed to be viable and appropriate to the county of
Surrey.
- Mr Furey suggested
alterations to the committee recommendations, namely the addition
of:
a)
The report and call for action as endorsed by this
committee should be reviewed to determine achievable and
sustainable outcomes with a timeline to delivery, as an urgent
item.
b)
Scope the delivery areas that are government led and
achievable, accordingly. The general population be reviewed in
terms of how the council can work with them to achieve the desired
outcomes.
- The amendment was
seconded by Mr Bennison. A vote was taken and the amendment was
lost.
- Mr Essex proposed
that the third recommendation be amended to include the word
‘sufficiency’, and this was agreed.
- The recommendations
were agreed with the addition of the word sufficiency to the third
recommendation.
- The Chairman stated
that the call for action would go to full Council and be debated by
all 81 members.
[Fiona White left at 12pm]
Actions/ Further information to be provided:
- Feedback on district
and borough engagement with respect to how they will all work
together to achieve the climate change targets to be provided by
the Cabinet Member for Environment and Waste.
- Establishment of a
benchmark for Surrey’s performance with respect to the
climate change targets
Recommendations:
- Endorse the Task
Group’s findings;
- Recommend the Call
for Action on page 37 to Cabinet and Council for
approval;
- Recommend that
further work is undertaken by Council officers to test the
viability, sufficiency and appropriateness of the recommendations
listed in Annex 1 and develop policy as a result.