Witnesses:
Sinead Mooney, Cabinet Member for Adults and Public
Health
Liz
Uliasz, Deputy Director, Adult Social Care
Kate Scribbins, Chief Executive, Healthwatch Surrey
Nick Markwick, Co-Chair, Surrey Coalition of Disabled
People
Key points
raised during the discussion:
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The Deputy Director of ASC introduced key points
from the report. Mental health and learning disabilities,
reablement for these groups and housing across social care were
being considered.
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Members were reminded that Surrey Heartlands was
going through a mental health transformation, and the Select
Committee itself was continuing to hold the Mental Health Task
Group. A Member encouraged the Council to work with the third
sector (charities and voluntary and community groups) and improve
GPs’ relationship with the third sector.
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A Member asked what the
balance was of the spend of the care package budget between older
people and people with learning disabilities. The Deputy Director
for ASC informed members that she would obtain this
information.
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A Member noted that the council planned to create 90
care units a year in the next few years, in contrast to only seven
units over the last 14 years, and questioned whether there was the
structure and authority in place to realise this successfully. The
Cabinet Member responded that an officer who would work on property
and housing in ASC was being recruited, and the Select Committee
would be kept updated on this. An extra care brief had been
designed and procurement was being examined.
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A Member referred to the strategic commissioning
approach, whereby privately-run care services might be taken back
under control of the Council. He questioned whether it could be
guaranteed that the Council could run the services cheaper than the
current owners. The Deputy Director of ASC reiterated that this
approach was needed and emphasised the development of positive
relationships with the market.
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A Member asked if there was a target number of
social care package reviews to deliver. The Deputy Director for ASC
responded that the target was not numerical, but rather based on
outcomes for individuals. There was variation between different
teams and how many reviews they completed; reasons for this
included a lack of staff and higher demand in some
teams.
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A member observed that the RAG (red, amber, green)
method of rating data could be too focused on financial measures
rather than outcomes for individuals. The Deputy Director of ASC
informed members that she would meet with Simon White, the
Executive Director of Public Health and Heartlands, and the
Chairman of the Adults and Health Select Committee with regard to
this issue.
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A Member observed that the conversational approach
of an occupational therapist (OT) could be helpful when reviewing
patients and asked if there were enough OTs to implement this
approach. The Deputy Director for ASC stated that more OTs were
needed to apply this approach more widely and a better offer should
be made to OTs to make it an attractive job. Also, social workers
in general were expected to have a more conversational
approach.
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A Member expressed concern that direct payments were
paid directly to residents who then might not spend it for the
designated purpose. The Deputy Director of ASC detailed that
residents signed an agreement as to how they would spend the
payment, and they had to produce receipts to show that they had
abided by the spending designations. If they had not abided by this
then their support plans might be reviewed. There were advantages
to direct payments, such as flexibility as to how and when payments
were made, and increased independence for residents.
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The Cabinet Member indicated that residents were
being put in secure housing placements so that they would have a
home for life and that reaching out more to social landlords was
essential.
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The Co-Chair of the Surrey Coalition of Disabled
People was of the opinion that it was very important that social
workers knew the resident and their history well, and he was
therefore concerned about social workers being assigned to tasks
rather than residents. The Deputy Director for ASC explained that
individual residents would be allocated to a social worker who knew
their history when needed.
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The Co-Chair of the Surrey Coalition of Disabled
People requested more information on reablement. The Deputy
Director of ASC stated that it was hoped that reablement could be
improved while working with their provider, SCIE.
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Members requested to be informed of what the
‘key milestones’ are, as mentioned in paragraph 10 of
the report.
Recommendations:
The Select Committee:
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Requests that a report on the implementation of the
new mental health service model is presented at a future
meeting;
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Requests that a detailed report on the Accommodation
with Care and Support programme is presented at a future
meeting;
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Is to examine opportunities to shadow staff and
better understand the care and support package review process and
outcomes;
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Requests that details about key programme milestones
are included in future update reports.
Actions/further information required:
1.
For the Cabinet Member to provide information on how
many residents came to the service and were assessed but found to
not actually require a care package;
2.
For the Deputy Director for ASC to circulate to the
Select Committee details of the care package budget balance between
older people and people with learning disabilities.
The Chairman adjourned the meeting at 12:35pm for a
short break.
The meeting was reconvened at 12:40pm
David Mansfield and Darryl Ratiram left the
meeting.