Witnesses:
Denise Turner Stewart, Cabinet Member for Education and
Learning
Rachael Wardell, Executive Director – Children, Families
and Lifelong Learning
Hayley Connor, Director – Commissioning
Eamonn Gilbert, Assistant Director –
Commissioning
Key points
raised in the discussion:
- The Cabinet Member
introduced the report, noting that the service currently cost
around £45 million a year and that the council was investing
£139 million to increase the number of school spaces in
county which would reduce demand on travel assistance services.
There were significant challenges to securing transport provision
due to market challenges, rising fuel costs and growing inflation,
which was a national issue. There had been good engagement during
the consultation period from key stakeholders and
residents.
- The Director and
Assistant Director presented slides on the consultation responses,
which were published as an agenda supplement. There were 694
responses which were largely positive; nine out of the thirteen
proposals were supported by a majority of respondents. It was noted
that the proposals were for both mainstream children and those with
special educational needs and disabilities (SEND). The Assistant
Director reminded Members that there had been a complete refresh of
the policy in 2020 and this was an update to the existing policy.
Only around 10% of those with Educational Health and Care Plans
(EHCPs) would qualify for adult social care services, and of those,
only around 4-5% would qualify for support from health partners for
complex medical health needs. Therefore, there was a significant
focus on developing independence and preparing for
adulthood.
- A Member asked about
the causes of increased demand. The Director explained that there
were national drivers for demand, particularly around SEND. As
Surrey was a large rural area with a few areas that were congested
and highly populated, it meant that transport arrangements were
difficult to negotiate. The rise in fuel and energy prices and
shortage of drivers had also created challenges in meeting
demand.
- The Member also asked
about the financial impact of the proposed changes, as well as any
inherent risks. In terms of efficiencies, the Director explained
that it was important to deliver services to children who needed
them most, however it was also important to deliver value for
money. There had been detailed financial analysis on the savings,
although much had changed since the work had started, such as the
price of fuel. Calculations were still being made in some detail.
The Assistant Director added that the number of places for
independent travel training would increase to 200, and then 400, to
help and prepare young people for future employment. It was about
shifting resources to approaches which helped to develop
independence, where it was appropriate for the young person. The
Director explained that the capital investment to increase school
places and encourage more children to be educated in Surrey which
would positively impact the costs. The Member noted that the number
of school children in Surrey would likely decrease in the next few
years due to falling birth rates. The Director explained that they
were managing the financial impacts and risks carefully and
co-production with stakeholders should be maintained. The Executive
Director added that they were changing community transport
arrangements and introducing a rounded package of measures. There
had been consideration since receiving the results from the
consultation about how to address the proposals that received a
negative response. A risk could be individual human behaviour,
because if families did not like the arrangements, they may choose
to transport their children themselves. The Cabinet Member added
that there were significant investment programmes, such as
improving the bus network and making public transport easier to
use. The proposed changes had been considered in parallel with
these investment programmes.
- A Member asked
whether the proposed changes aligned more greatly with national
policy guidance. The Director explained that generally they did
align, but they were seeking flexibility to move away from always
implementing the guidance. This flexibility was particularly in
terms of increasing journey times, when it was considered
appropriate for a child. It was important to note that it was
guidance and viewed as best practice. The proposals were about
internal processes to provide clarity for when to move away from
the guidance around journey times.
- In response to a
question on the proposed changes to the Member appeals panel, the
Director confirmed that it would be a mixed Member-officer panel.
The Member noted that there would be cases where children cannot
share transport due to their needs. The Director explained that
they would consider those children and their specific
circumstances, it was about strengthening definitions around
medical support. The Member sought assurance that children would
have travel arrangements in place by the first day of term. The
Executive Director explained they could not guarantee that but
would always endeavour to make sure they did; however, sometimes
arrangements did fail, which could be for reasons out of their
control.
- A Member asked about
the cost savings of more school places in Surrey; the risk of bus
driver shortages; performance against other councils; whether
electric vehicles were a requirement; and an increase of smaller
mainstream schools. The Executive Director responded that an
increase of smaller mainstream schools was not likely due to the
instability of them and the direction of national policy. The focus
was on increasing SEND places. The Director explained that the
proposed changes were part of a much broader review of how the
council provided transport. It was important for children to be
able to get to and from school on public transport. The
benchmarking process was completed pre-pandemic, however the County
Councils Network produced a report which provided information about
how Surrey compared to other local authorities and a series of
national recommendations. The Assistant Director added that the key
issue was scale, as currently a lot of vehicles were required.
Greater SEND places within Surrey allowed scale, as a minibus did
not cost much more than a taxi but could allow larger groups to
travel together. The service was looking to move away from a 100%
commissioned service.
- A Member asked about
the process of evaluating needs for home to school transport and
families’ involvement in this. The Director clarified that
there were no plans to change the process from what was currently
in place, the proposal was to build in further conversations with
the family to ensure that the needs of the child were understood.
The Assistant Director added that they were going to produce a
parent guide with Family Voice outlining expectations of the
service and of families.
- In response to a
question on the assessment of a SEND child’s transport needs,
the Assistant Director explained that there was an application
process, then their eligibility would be assessed and they would be
transferred to the transport coordination centre, who would liaise
with the school, and there would usually be a narrative in the
application from the family as well. If they also had a medical
need, there was an arrangement in place with health partners to
share information. They would provide advice, and if appropriate,
someone medically trained would travel with the child.
- A Member asked about
the percentage of solo transport for SEND children and the expected
number of children that would be considered appropriate to share,
as well as the associated savings. The Assistant Director shared
that around 70% of solo travellers were SEND children. They had
been working with families to understand how to move away from
those arrangements. There were currently 650 solo routes. The
Cabinet Member added that a primary driver was to make such
provision available to those with greatest needs.
- A Member commented on
the proposed change to the Member appeals panel suggesting that it
implied that Members were not doing an effective job. The Cabinet
Member explained that it was about streamlining service, as
currently it was frustrating for families if there were delays due
to not enough Members being available. The Member also asked about
the proposed changes to the maximum journey time. The Director
explained that they planned to create a set of supplementary
guidance which made it clear what journey time was considered
suitable, with references to ages and stages. Their primary concern
was around a child going to the best school for their needs and
flexibility in the policy could allow this. The Assistant Director
noted that of 2,100 routes, 313 were close to the 45-minute time
limit. The proposal was to introduce flexibility, not to move all
routes to 75 minutes limit (for secondary aged children). For
children accessing a mainstream school, the main issue was to
consider the requirement of a 2-to-3-mile walking distance to the
school.
- A Member asked how
often arrangements were reviewed and how independent travel
training worked. The Assistant Director explained that independent
travel training was a one-to-one service, usually lasting a month.
An adult would travel with the child from door to door and
gradually they would start to shadow the child instead. At the end,
there would be an assessment to see whether the child was able to
travel independently safely and if so, a bus or train pass would be
provided where necessary. The arrangements were not reviewed unless
the provider changed, or the family contacted the council about a
change.
- The Chairman asked
about the notice period for the removal of travel assistance and
why respondents disagreed with the proposal. The Director explained
that for some families who move out of a low-income status, a month
may not be enough time to work out new travel arrangements for your
child. The current arrangement allowed arrangements to continue
until the end of the academic year. It was about nuancing the
policy. There were also concerns around who would determine what
was considered to be a safe walking route. The Executive Director
added that 47% were not in favour, 53% were in favour or neutral. A
Member commented that the end of term could be more
appropriate.
- The Chairman enquired
about collection points. The Assistant Director explained that they
would be the equivalent of a bus stop, however there would be a
number of children with SEND for whom collection points would be
unsuitable. It was a parental responsibility to get their child to
school and collection points would reduce the overall journey time.
It would be appropriate for SEND children on a university pathway.
There would be further consultation with families on any route
where it was planned to introduce a collection point.
- A Member asked about
the numbers of children affected by the proposed maximum journey
time of 75 minutes. The Director explained that 541 students
travelled on routes that take approximately 45 minutes. At this
stage it was not known how many children’s travel routes
would be redesigned, but feedback from both the consultation and
the Select Committee would be accounted.
The
meeting adjourned at 1:02pm for a briefing on the Safety Valve
agreement, and Simon Parr left the meeting.
The
meeting was reconvened meeting at 2:18pm.
- A Member suggested
that there should be at least a greater majority of Members to
officers on the Member appeals panel. The Executive Director
explained that whilst she agreed with this in principle, it would
not achieve the objective with regards to quorum and Member
availability.
Action:
i.
That future Select Committee meetings allow for
sufficient time for each agenda item and a lunchbreak where
appropriate.
Recommendations:
- The Cabinet Member for Education and Learning ensure the Home to
School Travel Assistance Policy reflects the following
recommendations before it is referred to Cabinet for
agreement:
a)
The 45-minute maximum intended journey time for
primary-aged pupils contained in statutory guidance be maintained
and only exceeded in exceptional circumstances, such as journeys
which enable a child to attend the setting which best meets their
needs or where it would be impractical or disproportionately
expensive for a journey to be shorter than 45-minutes –
journeys should always enable children to arrive at school ready
for a day of study and be suitable, safe and reasonably stress
free.
b)
Collection points be situated in locations which
protect the safety and wellbeing of children.
c)
In the case of an appeal against a withdrawal of
travel assistance, assistance not be withdrawn until the appeal is
complete.
d)
There be no change to the appeals panel membership;
and that steps be taken promote member attendance at appeals panel
meetings.
- That Cabinet agree
the reported changes to the Home to School Travel Assistance Policy
subject to the changes recommended in recommendation 1.