Witnesses:
Matthew Furniss,
Cabinet Member for Transport and Infrastructure
Katie Stewart,
Executive Director – Environment, Transport &
Infrastructure
Jonathon James,
Electric Vehicle Project Manager
Lee Parker, Director
– Infrastructure Planning and Major Projects
Key
points raised during the discussion:
- An Officer gave a
brief presentation on the background to the report explaining that
since 2015 there were ten times more electric vehicles on
Surrey’s roads and during November 2021 more electric
vehicles were sold than diesel. The proposal for a single supplier
concession for chargepoints to shoulder the financial risk and
responsibility for delivering on-street public chargepoints across
Surrey was reinforced by a research report in 2020 by KPMG.
Discussions had taken place with dozens of local authorities to
learn from their experiences and 14 chargepoint operating companies
had been consulted in wide ranging research. Forums with the
districts and boroughs had taken place to explore progress and
share best practice with a view to building partnerships. Research
had shown that until recently, all pioneer authorities that had
delivered chargepoint projects had almost all received significant
grant funding, such funding was time limited and authorities needed
to look to alternative means of delivery. The market had responded
over the last 12 months by accessing investor funding to support
fully funded installations where these can be secured by an
extended period to achieve a reasonable financial return. The model
for recommendation was principally private sector funded but also
enabled the opportunity for part funding by public sources where
this was available and justifiable.
- On behalf of the
Committee, the Chairman expressed concern at the lack of detail
included in the report and said that the Committee sought
reassurances on the programme as a whole.
- The Chairman noted
that the site selection of chargepoints could be controversial for
residents. An Officer agreed that this topic divided opinion and
whilst it was widely acknowledged as necessary, the opinions of
residents and councillors was dependent of their personal and moral
positions. Some residents might be against any change at this point
but the Service had to reflect these advancements and improve the
way that they were communicated to residents to improve the
proportion of acceptability.
- A
Member said that the report in its current format was confusing and
did not provide enough information. An Officer said that whilst the
exact numbers of chargepoints required were not currently known and
would, by necessity, evolve, that should not stop the County
Council making progress to procure an Electric Vehicle (EV)
chargepoint partner that could scale delivery to the required
demand over time
- A
Member asked if the boroughs and districts would have the final say
on Electric Vehicle (EV) chargepoints in their car parks. A Member
confirmed that the districts and boroughs had been invited to be
part of the process. In response it was noted that it was their
choice to sign up but in any event they would control their own
carparks.
- A
Member asked if Surrey County Council knew how many houses did not
have enough street parking and what was the total requirement of
on-street EV chargepoints. An officer said a significant commitment
of time, money and resource was going into planning the network
delivery and exactly where chargepoints were required. This
planning would take into account many datasets and the chargepoint
operators would make the selections.
- An Officer, in
relation to the Chairman’s comments concerning a lack of
reported detail, apologised to Members that the session originally
planned to brief them before this Select Committee, had been
cancelled. The Officer pointed out that the report proposal
responded to the Committee’s recommendations in October that
EV infrastructure was critical to ensure the success of our climate
change delivery plan, highlighting the need to scale up the
programme to implement the right processes and
procedures.
- An
Officer noted that without acting now to apply these mechanisms
Surrey County Council would not meet its climate change targets,
something the Committee had requested regular reassurances on and
with a good reason. This mechanism would help to meet the ambitious
target of a 16 per cent to 31 per cent carbon reduction in
transport emissions by 2025 and mitigates the risk to the authority
in respect of changing technology, allowing flexibility to move
with demand. To wait for perfect information would cause delays and
threaten timely delivery.
- The Cabinet Member
for Transport & Infrastructure accepted the concerns raised
regarding the sensitive issue of chargepoint sites locations and
said that EV cars also required parking spaces and so there would
not be a reduction in parking spaces. The Cabinet Member for
Transport & Infrastructure asked Members to consider the
information they would find helpful and the criteria that could be
provided to aid their decision regarding a single provider to
deliver this programme in Surrey.
- A
Member said they were concerned about adopting a private sector
business model due to previous unsuccessful experiences with the
sector. An Officer said that their understanding of the market was
that the fundamental driver to opt for a fully funded private
sector concession was the ability to incorporate part funding
solutions at any time. There was no alternative practical option to
deliver the numbers of chargepoints that were required, other than
through a chiefly private sector option.
- A Member said that
inviting the districts and boroughs to join a partnership when the
business model had been agreed was not in the spirit of
partnership, should the districts and boroughs not be involved in
the decision-making process. An Officer said that the Surrey EV
Forum had been formed in April 2021 and consisted of Officers from
all of the districts and broughs. The official policy backing was
given for all of the districts and boroughs to pursue. Work had
been ongoing during the last 12 months to grow these partnerships
and that part of the rationale for recommending the model proposed
was that it enabled districts and boroughs to join in the
concession if they wished
- A member asked what
proportion of the 10,000 Chargepoints target would be located
on-street and in car parks. An Officer said that this information
was not yet available. The target of the first year was to define a
network plan through broad consultation that would be presented to
the Committee for feedback.
- A Member asked if it
was appropriate to consider fast chargers and if future
technologies were being considered. An Officer explained that the
concession contract would allow for changes in the provision and
deal with the flexibility of new technology. At this stage, many
on-street chargers would suit fast charging, however slow chargers
that would be appropriate for overnight charging, had not been
discounted
- A Member suggested
that chargepoints could be installed at Surrey County Council car
parks located to serve parks and greens. This could reduce the
number of on-street chargepoints and whilst more expensive, may be
a more acceptable solution. An Officer said that these were the
types of locations that would be included in the network plan. Cost
implications would depend on distances from power connections,
however, it was generally more economical to install chargepoints
in car parks than on- street and the fact that traffic regulation
orders would not be required made these locations less contentious
and high priority.
- A Member queried if,
in relation to the Surrey EV Forum, there were minutes, targets or
action plans available to support development. An Officer said that
minutes of the forum were circulated amongst forum officers, they
were not shared but were available on request. The programme is
driven by the Climate Change Delivery Plan with a blueprint to
develop a specific action plan proposed. This would be the first
action within the concession contract. The network plan would be 12
months from the start of the contract with the agreed action plan
to run parallel to that. If the contract were agreed, procurement
would be in place by September 2022, after this point a long-term
action plan would be available.
- A Member asked what
risks were involved in committing to a 15- year contract. An
officer said that the private sector organisation had to commit in
terms of return on investment. To agree to make and fully fund the
scheme would only be possible with exclusivity for chargepoint
installation over a sufficient period of time. Any non-performance
would be covered by break points in the contract, including a
five-year break point in any event to allow for review and
evaluation. Suppliers often refresh technology after seven years
which would allow joint consideration of available
technologies.
- A Member asked if
Surrey County Council would be at risk of being monopolised by a
single supplier and did it risk missing the opportunity to raise
revenues. An Officer explained that this was a competitive element
of the tender. It was hoped there would be revenue return which
would be used to manage the process, assist in developing the
process and reinvest in further chargepoints.
- A Member asked if the
equipment was transferable, enabling a switch to a different
supplier at the end of the contract. An Officer confirmed that this
had been considered in the plans. If the choice was to decommission
at the end of the contract, all underground cabling would be in
place resulting in more economical replacement of the equipment.
There may also be an option to take the equipment into the
ownership off SCC. If a supplier were to cease trading during the
contract, there would be a contractual provision to make the
equipment suitable for instant transfer to another operator with
the required software compatibility.
- A Member asked if
Officers could give insight into what a contract that might look
like and asked why the report refers to being at the procurement
options stage. Could the process be paused to enable the Committee
the opportunity to consider the detail and contribute constructive
comments and recommendations. An Officer said that they were very
open to further engaging the Committee but there would be concerns
regarding any delays caused. As the Committee was aware that there
is a perception that the County Council was already acting too late
to tackle carbon emissions and had difficult targets to meet. The
Cabinet Member for Highways & Infrastructure suggested that the
Highways Reference Group could scrutinise the detail in place of a
new reference group.
- A Member asked if the
Long-Term Network Plan could be developed by a separate entity to
the those supplying the equipment to avoid a conflict of interest.
An Officer said that decisions would be based on the quality of the
competition, however it was recognised that companies had a deep
vested interest in using their own data driven software to produce
a plan to best deliver a return on their investment.
- A Member asked how
many chargepoints were being considered in less contentious and top
priority locations. An Officer explained that plans would be
considered with the districts and boroughs. Some districts and
Boroughs had committed to house exemplar car parks as part of the
process and currently every parking review was being looked at in a
sequential manner to ensure that the more acceptable locations were
considered first, resulting in approximately 200 – 300
chargepoint locations including carparks.
- A Member asked if
there were plans to charge electricity to the grid to sell back at
a more profitable time and also questioned whether electric bike
(e-Bike) charging had been considered. An Officer advised that
vehicle to grid charging was not currently an option but would be
taken into account during the life of the concession at the point
of the technology review at five years, also providing an
opportunity to consider e-bike charging.
- A Member asked if
there would be disabled access to chargepoints. An Officer advised
that disabled access to Electric Vehicle (EV) charge points was
easier to take into account in car parks where there was space and
would continue to be part of ongoing consideration. National advice
was expected which would inform a way to integrate disabled access
and charge across the programme.
- A Member asked what
the provision for the maintenance of chargepoints be. An Officer
confirmed that the supplier would be responsible for maintenance
which would be governed by Key Performance Indicators (KPI)
resulting in penalties for poor performance. Demonstration of that
capability would form part of the contract.
- A Member asked if the
Service was aware of the number of chargepoints being installed by
supermarkets. An Officer explained that private sector were moving
fast in installing chargepoints with 630 chargepoints across
Surrey, more than two thirds being located in private car parks
such as supermarkets and retail parks. It was not possible to
include the private sector in the County Councils arrangements
because the contractual capability was only available to the public
sector. The plans and forecasts of the of the private sector were
very relevant to the concession and important to avoid doubling
up.
- The Chairman
reiterated the Select Committee’s strong concerns regarding
the paper and the unsatisfactory timescale given to decide upon a
business model. The
paper was missing the reasons why models two, three and four were
not appropriate for Surrey County Council. Points raised by
Committee Members concerning the districts and boroughs appeared to
be a good starting point for the Highways Reference Group to begin
scrutiny of the paper along with the concerns raised by the Select
Committee today.
Resolved:
The Select
Committee:
- Asks Cabinet Member
to consider postponement of the 25 January Cabinet report titled
‘Surrey Public Electric Vehicle Chargepoint Procurement
Plan’ so that issues raised by the Members of the Select
Committee can be considered and reflected in the final report
presented to Cabinet.
- Requests a further
information update report be presented to the Select Committee
meeting at its special meeting on 7 February 2022.
[Following the Select Committee meeting, the wording of the
Cabinet report had been revised such that the Chair and Vice Chairs
believe it now addresses the concerns raised by the Select
Committee and a further information update report will be presented
to the Select Committee on 7 February, as requested.]