Witness:
Kelvin Menon, Chief Finance Officer (Office of the Police and
Crime Commissioner)
Key points
raised in the discussion:
- The Chief Finance
Officer outlined that the major change since the last report
presented was the government-announced pay award for police
officers. This added £3.3 million to the overall cost for
each year. The Home Office had provided a grant of £1.8
million to offset some of that cost. The grant was allocated on the
same basis as the formula grant, of which Surrey received the
lowest share in the country.
- A Panel Member asked
about the likely situation of continued pay increases beyond 2% and
whether this could result in discussions on the holding of a
Council tax referendum. The Chief Finance Officer responded that
the level of police officer pay was set centrally by the Pay Review
Body and agreed by central government and was not subject to local
judgement. The Government had implied that any percentage increase
that was above the percentage included in Force budgets would be
covered by additional funding, as had been the case in the current
year (2022). The Government could also impose pay restraints on the
public sector which would limit costs, thus, the need for a
referendum was unlikely. In the past, the Force considered having a
referendum but discounted it due to the significant cost of holding
one.
- A Panel Member asked
about the impact of reductions in police staff and which roles were
likely to be cut. The Chief Finance Officer explained that the
Force was unable to make police officers redundant and it was
likely that the Government would say that the increase of officers
achieved through Uplift would need to be maintained. Therefore,
savings would need to be found within police staff. Currently, the
Force was running a high vacancy rate as they were struggling to
recruit, particularly in areas such as IT where they were unable to
match the pay of the private sector. The Force would try to
minimise the impact of any staff savings by changing ways of
working for example.
- A Panel Member
enquired about the likelihood of the Force issuing a Section 114
notice and the impact if that took place. The Chief Finance Officer
explained that the Surrey was no worse position than any other
Force in the country. No Force had issued a Section 114 notice
before, however, it was a tool that was available if required. If
actioned, all non-essential expenditure would stop but day-to-day
policing itself would not be impacted.
- A Panel Member asked
whether more than one scenario had been considered. The Chief
Finance Officer reassured the Panel that five different scenarios
had been considered and the one presented in the report was a
reasonable mid-point. In the spending review, the Government had
promised extra funding for the police, but it was unknown currently
how this funding would be divided. Therefore, no additional funding
had been included. The Panel Member queried the recruitment freeze
for Police Community Support Officers (PCSOs) and asked about the
process of deciding on a budget between the PCC and Chief
Constable. The Chief Finance Officer explained that the Force were
in the process of creating its budget and would set out the
different implications of varying budgets. It was then for the PCC
to decide which choices were most appropriate. The Chief Finance
Officer explained that PCSOs were being converted into fully
warranted police officers. The PCC added that the PCC produced the
Police and Crime Plan and then the Chief Constable decided how to
deliver the Plan operationally.
- A Panel Member noted
that they would struggle to support an increase in the precept with
the cost of living currently and suggested moving police staff into
police officer roles. The Chief Finance Officer noted the
importance of the work of police staff in preventing crime and
assisting officers, but the suggestion could be explored. It may
help to explain to the Panel what police staff do in a future
report.
- A Panel Member asked
which capital projects were likely to be affected and whether this
would include the redevelopment of the Force headquarters. The
Chief Finance Officer explained that as interest rates rise,
capital schemes that were due to deliver a net benefit may not
anymore and they would be revisited at the time. The redevelopment
of the headquarters was a ten year rebuild programme and
affordability was central to this. There was a briefing planned for
Wednesday, 28 September 2022 for Panel Members on the Estate
Strategy.
RESOLVED:
The
Panel noted the report.