Witnesses:
Marissa Heath, Cabinet Member for
Environment
Paul Deach, Deputy Cabinet Member for
Environment
Katie Stewart, Executive
Director of Environment, Transport and Infrastructure
Caroline McKenzie, Director of
Environment
Katie Sargent, Environment
Group Commissioning Manager
The Cabinet Member for
Environment introduced the report highlighting the insulation of
homes and the installation of renewables in homes as priorities,
reiterating that whilst there were areas that needed further
progress, the value of collaborative working prior to the paper
going to Cabinet in November was clear.
The Deputy Cabinet Member for
Environment explained that recent work with the communications team
was intended to optimise the message going out to residents to
reinforce the greener futures message and maximise behaviour
change.
Key
points raised during the discussion:
- The Vice Chairman, in
reference to the lack of national funding for transport issues
noted in paragraph 11, was concerned about the new government
having a lack of enthusiasm for greener futures agenda. The Cabinet
Member for the Environment said that the aim was for the agenda to
continue locally, regardless of national reprioritisation, and the
focus was for the Council to remain at the forefront of the agenda
by lobbying for alternative sources of funding and ensuring
resources were available to bid for funding
opportunities.
- A Member, in
reference to the Cabinet Member for Environment’s comment
around alternate sources of funding noted that the same was said a
year ago and reiterated that action was required. The Environment
Group Commissioning Manager explained that progress was being made
with the implementation of different finance mechanisms and added
that as an example, the development of a power purchase agreement
to enable rental roof style schemes with schools could be
replicated for use on commercial, industrial and agricultural
buildings to generate income and help fund decarbonisation measures
going forward.
- A Member was
concerned at the time taken to bring information forward to the
Greener Futures Reference Group on these finance options. The
Director of Environment whilst noting the concern, explained the
complexity of the mechanisms and the need gather evidence and build
on trust to encourage private sector finance.
- A Member queried how
the format of the report could be adjusted to reflect that despite
reductions being achieved, emissions were rising faster than the
trajectory the county needs to stay on track to meet its net zero
ambitions. The Cabinet Member for Environment committed to add a
record of this information to future reports. Action- Cabinet
Member for Environment
- A Member queried when
the next base data update could be expected. The Environment Group
Commissioning Manager confirmed that data was released
annually.
- A Member requested an
update regarding the progress of delivery in respect of the Light
emitting diode (LED) streetlight replacement programme and the roll
out of Electric Vehicle (EV) chargepoints pilot project, particularly given the
risk and concerns over the lack of capacity of third-party
providers to deliver some objectives. The Executive Director of
Environment, Transport and Infrastructure confirmed that the LED
streetlighting programme was on track and was an area where SCC was
making significant energy savings. An investment of £30
million in this programme was providing an annual saving of
£1.3 million and a commitment was made to provide the Select
Committee with a written update regarding this. Following the
agreement of terms by the Select Committee’s EV Reference
Group, the procurement for EV chargepoints had been issued and was in the final
stages of tendering. It was expected that a proposal of a decision
on procurement would be taken to Cabinet in November 2022 with a
meeting of the Select Committee to follow shortly after. Action
– Executive Director of Environment, Transport and
Infrastructure
- A Member asked for an
update following a question raised at full Council in December 2021
regarding carbon literacy training and asked about progress in
delivering that training for officers and the progress in Member
training. The Environment Group Commissioning Manager confirmed
that the Corporate Leadership Team had received the carbon literacy
training and that this would be rolled out further, with sessions
taking place every two months. The Environment Group Commissioning
Manager committed to providing the committee with numbers of staff
that have received training. Action
– Environment Group Commissioning Manager
- A Member queried the
reason that paragraph 9 of the report showing a green RAG (Red,
Amber Green) status for sustainable warmth was rated as red in the
introduction provided by the Cabinet Member for Environment. The
Member concluded that as the figures show, although good progress
had been made, the Council was not delivering against its targets
for 2025, 2030 and 2050 which should be reflected in the ratings.
The Cabinet Member for Environment noted the continuing progress
for sustainable warmth within funding constraints and explained
that targets were being met as an authority, however there were
broader challenges around what was happening in privately rented
and privately owned homes that remained a challenge. The Member
reiterated the importance of realistic information around targets
was shared with residents.
- A Member, in
reference to a comment made in the previous item made by the Leader
of the Council regarding investment zone applications to be
submitted by 14 October 2022, asked if the removal of environmental
controls would undermine the Council’s Climate Change policy
and was there any clarity around the Government’s intentions
around environmental controls in these Investment Zones. The
Cabinet Member for Environment agreed with the speculative nature
around environmental controls and confirmed that submissions by the
Council would reiterate that the environmental agenda must not be
undermined.
- A Member suggested
that information shared with residents could be more
straightforward, for example the LED streetlight programme could be
expressed as a percentage of the total. The Cabinet Member for the
Environment welcomed the suggestion and agreed that clear messages
to residents were fundamental to encourage behaviour
change.
- The Chairman asked if
the commitment remained for a carbon budget to be delivered
alongside the financial budget. The Cabinet Member for Environment
confirmed this was the case.
- The Chairman asked if
there was confidence that essential behavioural changes required to
meet the 2025, 2030 and 2050 targets would happen. The Cabinet
Member for Environment said that there was confidence in the team
to bring a clear vision and develop the integration of behaviour
change but challenges were expected and support from the government
and others was required. The Council needed to further develop
communications with residents to impart information regarding the
benefits of changes and the support available to residents to
implement those changes.
- A Member suggested a
measurement of where residents are currently in personally changing
their behaviours and relaying this information back to them as a
way of improving communication of the message. The Cabinet Member
for Environment agreed to take away the suggestion for
consideration. Action – Cabinet Member for
Environment.
- A Member asked if
greener construction skills were being addressed as part of the
Skills Plan for Surrey. The Cabinet Member for Environment
confirmed that the Skills Plan for Surrey would be focusing on
greener construction skills.
Resolved:
The Community, Environment and Highways Select
Committee:
1.
Welcomes the substantive progress already
achieved, particularly at Surrey County Council level, made over
the last 12 months to meet our net zero carbon target by 2030. It
commends the work of officers and the active involvement of the
Greener Futures Member Reference Group.
2.
Supports the proposed amendments to the
Delivery Plan contained in Paragraph 16. The intention to work even
closer with Surrey’s Districts and Broughs is
applauded.
3.
Is concerned that the new
government’s commitment (both in policy and funding) to
climate objectives may be waning (energy crisis, de-regulation to
promote growth, and possible public spending reductions) may
seriously impede Surrey as a whole from achieving net zero by 2050,
despite vigorous lobbying by the Council and others. The Strategy
may have to be adapted should these fears be realised.
4.
Recognises that significant behavioural
change by residents on vehicle usage, low carbon measures and
active/sustainable travel has yet to take place and that while the
Council itself inevitably can only play a limited role, it should
intensify its efforts in this regard.
5.
Reiterates its support for Carbon budget
to be developed alongside the Council’s financial
budget.
6.
Appreciates that RAG status to measure
the success of a project within the constraints applied to that
project is helpful for internal management purposes. However, asks
that in case of Climate Change the RAG status against the 2025,
2030 and 2050 targets be included in all future reporting to make
it more useful for external communication and
understanding.