Witnesses:
Natalie Bramhall, Cabinet
Member for Property and Waste
Leigh Whitehouse, Deputy Chief
Executive and Executive Director of Resources
Simon Crowther, Director Land
and Property
Matthew Pizii, Head of Strategy and Planning
Dominic Barlow, Assistant
Director Property, Strategy and Planning
Brian Boundy, Strategic Advisor Facilities
Management
Key
points raised during the discussion:
- The Chairman asked
what the extent of discussions with Land and Property in relation
to recent work at Quadrant Court was.
- The Cabinet Member
for Property and Waste summarised the previous uncoordinated
approach to the Councils office estate. It was felt that the estate
was unaffordable and previously not fit for purpose. The Agile
Office Estate Strategy had been addressing these issues by adopting
a strategic approach to transforming the Councils office estate
with the move out of County Hall in Kingston being the catalyst.
The Council was evolving to become a more agile and sustainable
organisation delivering a reduced estate footprint with essential
transformational investment delivering fit for purpose workspaces
across the county as well as delivering a reduction in costs. The
Select Committee’s focus on the Northwest Quadrant and
Quadrant Court was appreciated, however offering context at this
time was appropriate. With regard to Quadrant Court and the Greener
Futures work, the Cabinet Member for Property and Waste said she
had not been made aware of the appointment and contractual
relationship. These regrettable circumstances and the fact that
Land and Property should have been more involved have been raised
with the Director for Environment and the Cabinet Member for
Environment. Costings for the flood damage caused by a compression
joint to a hot water tank that had not been sealed adequately were
expected to be more than £1 million.
- The Chairman asked if
the building was back in use. The Strategic Advisor, Facilities
Management confirmed that the building was back in full use except
for some meeting rooms.
- The Chairman queried
if contractual discussions around the fault were taking place. The
Strategic Advisor, Facilities Management confirmed that an
investigation was taking place adding that claims that the
workmanship of the joint had resulted in the malfunction were yet
to be substantiated. A report would be made available at the end of
October 2002 following the investigation and would include the
expected costs for remedial works. The Chairman requested that the
Resources and Performance Select Committee be updated when that
information was received. Action: The Strategic Advisor,
Facilities Management
- The Vice Chairman, in
reference to recommendation three of the report, asked if bringing
the timescale for bringing the report back to Cabinet should read
Q2 2023, instead of Q2 2022. This was confirmed.
- The Vice Chairman
queried why Quadrant Court and other properties had been allowed to
run into disrepair with minimum investment, as referenced in the
report. The Cabinet Member for Property and Waste said that
Quadrant Court had not been allowed to run into disrepair, however
it was evident that historically, minimal maintenance and
investment had been inadequate. The current Land and Property team
were working under strong management to develop improved
maintenance across the estate. The Vice Chairman, in reference to
the report noting that minimal levels of maintenance and investment
have been undertaken historically, asked why that was the
institutional reaction to the buildings owned by the Council. The
Deputy Chief Executive and Executive Director of Resources
challenged this interpretation of the report noting that the report
stated that the ‘minimum’ amount of maintenance had
been undertaken, which is different from ‘minimal’, it
being what was adequate rather than less than that. From 2010
onwards during the period of austerity, some decisions were made to
balance the budget which may have been expedient in the short term
but provided challenges medium to longer term.
- The Vice Chairman
asked why the Council continues to work in silos resulting in the
Cabinet Member for Property and Waste to be unaware of a contact
that sits within their portfolio. The Cabinet Member for Property
and Waste was not aware how this situation had been allowed to
happen and had been given assurances by Greener Futures that it
would not be repeated.
- A Member asked for
reassurances that all contractors and works would be carried out
under the correct warrantees and insurances. The Strategic Advisor,
Facilities Management gave assurances that future contracts would
have the required warrantees and insurance.
- A Member reiterated
that any contract let by the Council should be checked against
compulsory guidelines and governance. The Cabinet Member for
Property and Waste confirmed that any contracts let by the Land and
Property team go through a process of confirming warrantees and
insurances.
- The Chairman, in
noting a previous contractual issue considered by the Resources and
Performance Select Committee, reiterated that it had previously
been recommended that all contract specifications be regarded
carefully at the appropriate level.
- A Member, considering
significant increases in energy costs asked if buildings were being
assessed in terms of energy cost implications. The Cabinet Member
for Property and Waste confirmed that urgent assessments were
taking place with a new Energy Management Task Force focusing on
operational, behavioural and technological initiatives.
- A Member asked if the
disposal of underutilised buildings would be considered. The
Strategic Advisor, Facilities Management confirmed that it was part
of the wider estate strategy to look at the utilisation of
buildings with the property and strategy team and occupancy was
being considered as part of the corporate office estate to
identifying opportunities to reduce energy costs. The Member
requested that the Resources and Performance Select Committee be
provided with more detail around the performance of building and
occupancies. The Cabinet Member for Property and Waste confirmed
that these points were being addressed as part of the whole Agile
Office Strategy.
- A Member was
concerned to learn that Land and Property were responsible for
energy costs across the organisation rather than departments. The
Deputy Chief Executive and Executive Director of Resources
explained that this was consistent with the corporate landlord
model currently in place. Land and Property were custodians of the
buildings rather than the services residing within them to avoid
fragmented decision making around building use. Risks would
continually be monitored and mitigated. The Director for Land and
Property added that sharing clear reporting data broken down by
building and service would encourage the right
behaviour.
Resolved:
The Resources and Performance Select
Committee:
1.
Supports the Agile Office Strategy which
seeks to reduce costs and environmental impact.
2.
Notes the ambitious timetable provided in
the report and is concerned that this timetable may not be
achievable.
3.
Requests that the Select Committee
continue to be kept updated on the progress of Agile Office
Strategy decision-making and delivery.
4.
Asks the Deputy Chief Executive and
Executive Director of Resources to ensure:
a.
Robust financial regulations (contracting
arrangements) are in place.
b.
Proper due diligence regime for
contractors is followed.
c.
That the occupancy ratio figures across
the Council’s office estate; and a briefing on the Energy
Management Task Force be provided to the Select
Committee.
AGILE
OFFICE ESTATE STRATEGY [Item
9]
[Part
Two discussion internal record only, not for
publication]
Witnesses:
Natalie Bramhall, Cabinet
Member for Property and Waste
Leigh Whitehouse, Deputy Chief
Executive and Executive Director of Resources
Simon Crowther, Director Land
and Property
Matthew Pizii, Head of Strategy and Planning
Dominic Barlow, Assistant
Director Property, Strategy and Planning
Brian Boundy, Strategic Advisor Facilities
Management
The Cabinet Member for Property
and Waste introduced a Part 2 report containing information which
was exempt from Access to Information requirements by virtue of
paragraph 3 – Information relating to the financial or
business affairs of any particular person (including commercially
sensitive information to the bidding companies)
Key
points raised during the discussion:
1.
The Select Committee discussed the exempt annexes
asking questions of the witnesses under Part 2
conditions.