Witnesses:
Denise
Turner-Stewart, Cabinet Member for Communities and Community
Safety
Dan Quin,
Chief Fire Officer
Bernadette
Beckett, Chief of Staff
Key points made during the discussion:
Annual Performance Report Red KPIs
- The
Chairman welcomed the witnesses and asked the Cabinet Member for
Communities and Community Safety to introduce the item. The Cabinet
Member welcomed scrutiny by the Committee and extended an
invitation for members to receive a briefing on fire and rescue
service operations at Wray Park. She drew attention to the latest
HMICFRS Inspection which was due to report in August and noted that
a report on this would be provided to the December Committee
session.
- A
Member welcomed the Chief Fire Officer to his new role and
expressed appreciation for the Surrey Fire and Rescue Service
(SFRS). He asked about the service’s policy regarding annual
fitness assessments for officers nearing retirement and whether
those who might not pass the annual physical exam could be utilised
in non-frontline roles. The Chief Fire Officer explained that a
certain level of fitness was required for operational roles. Where
individuals fell below this support was offered via occupational
health, gym facilities and allocated fitness time to get fitness
levels back up to the standard. For operational personnel unable to
do so, a capability process exists which could result in
redeployment to different roles under Council Terms and
Conditions.
- A
discussion followed on the issue of Fire and Rescue Service
governance and the outcomes of the Home Office White Paper:
Reforming our fire and rescue service. The Chief Fire
Officer noted that the response to the White Paper consultation
would be available before the summer recess. Good governance is
vital as is the scrutiny performed by this Committee. The Cabinet
Member for Communities and Community Safety said there was no
significant benefit to a change in fire governance arrangements and
that the current exercise being undertaken by the Police and Crime
Commissioner was unwarranted.
- The
Chairman asked about the programme of engagement with schools and
the ambition to reach all schools in the county. 59% of schools had
been covered, how would 100% be achieved? The Chief Fire Officer
explained that all schools were being contacted but not all were
taking up the offer. A Member asked about education around water
related risks. The Chief Fire Officer noted that most fatalities in
the county involve water and roads, not fire. The fire and rescue
service is a risk-based organisation and effort is focused in line
with risk. In addition to core business, the focus in Surrey is
addressing risks from wildfire, water, and road safety. These risks
are reflected in the school’s education packages. The Chief
Officer drew attention to the Safe Drive Stay Alive event aimed at
addressing road risk and explained how this was being developed
into a new DriveFit programme.
- The
Chairman noted that feedback on Safe and Well Visits was
quantitative and not qualitative. The Chief Fire Officer gave
examples of feedback on the impact of these visits which were
overwhelmingly positive. Work to improve the feedback process and
to target groups as well as individuals was outlined.
- A
Member noted the risks around teenage boys jumping in rivers and
asked if water safety was being addressed in events other than in
schools. The Chief Fire Officer agreed that water safety was an
issue for all age groups and gave reassurance that service
engagement reflected this. Water safety
events are being undertaken in partnership with other organisations
involved in water safety education and rescues outside of the
school’s education programme. In addition, the service is
engaging with partners and landowners to improve access to throw
lines and information boards along waterways and in areas where
there has been an increase in public use of water for leisure
purposes. The need for improved education and collaboration with
partners to address water safety issues was noted.
- A
Member asked if a wildfire event could be created in Chobham, and
an action was taken to revert with a response.
Sickness Absence
- A
Member asked about the reasons behind increasing sickness absence
within SFRS; and how these levels compared to those in neighbouring
areas. The Chief of Staff accepted that sickness levels were high
and explained the common reasons for both short-term and long-term
sicknesses. The attendance management policy had been reviewed and
there is clear guidance to managers around when to act to monitor
individual absences or work with individuals to get them back to
work as soon as possible. Regular case
support meetings are taking place. An employee relations team had
been established to provide support to managers. Employees have access to Occupational Health
support and a business case had been developed to introduce
additional health support to allow staff to get support and
appointments quicker than they would on the NHS. The Chief of Staff
noted that sickness levels amongst operational staff was very high
compared to other fire and rescue services but lower in relation to
the neighbouring services of London and East and West
Sussex.
- A
Member asked how a high level of service could be provided with
such a high level of sickness. The Chief of Staff gave reassurance
that services were being delivered adequately and that overall
staffing levels were good.
Nevertheless, reducing sickness absence is a priority and steps are
being taken to introduce new mechanisms and adopt best practice.
The Chief Fire Officer explained that
there had been a significant uplift in recruitment which meant the
service was above establishment level for Wholetime firefighters,
providing a cushion to compensate for the impact of
sickness.
HMICFRS Inspection Improvement Plan
- A
Member asked about the recommendation to evaluate the
service’s Prevention work and whether there were figures to
show it was working. The Chief of Staff explained that evaluation
was taken very seriously across all areas including
Prevention. An Evaluation Framework is
being developed to ensure consistency and provide assurance that
feedback was being used to improve services. This would be
finalised in August. It was hoped that the forthcoming HMICFRS
Inspection report would reflect the work done on evaluation of some
prevention activities.
- A
Member asked about the multi-agency and cross-border exercise
programme. The Chief Fire Officer noted that 15 cross-border/multi
agency exercises have been undertaken in the last six
months. Changes in the approach to
operational learning were outlined including ways to harvest
learning from smaller incidents and to instil a ‘no
blame’ culture. An Operational Performance Support team had
been established offering peer to peer support around
incidents.
- A
Member asked about the challenge of culture reform and what being
done to make the service more inclusive. The Chief of Staff
emphasised that this was a high priority for the service. New
procedures were embedded across all teams to address these issues.
The focus is on creating an inclusive environment to retain diverse
staff and to ensure any issues that arise are addressed. A Core
Code of Ethics was at the heart of this. A Culture Action Pan
had been developed which is monitored independently by staff.
Challenging unhelpful gossip and rumour was also a particular
priority. The Chief Fire Officer noted close working relationship
with the Fire Brigades Union and that joint communications on these
issues were created.
- A
Member asked for statistics on deaths in Surrey from fire, road and
in rivers. The Chief Fire Officer noted that that almost 50% of
those road Killed or Seriously Injured in Surrey involved
non-Surrey residents and emphasised the importance of regional and
national coordination to address the issue.
- A
Member queried how the service was adapting to issues caused by hot
summers and rising heat levels. The Chief Fire Officer responded
that resilience was good. All
operational staff were now equipped with new wildfire personal
protective equipment and had undertaken additional training.
Additional equipment and wildfire support vehicles had been
developed. Surrey was recognised as one of the leading fire and
rescue services on Wildfire. The Chief Fire Officer emphasised the
efficiency of staff in tackling wildfire incidents and expressed
his confidence in the service. A Member stated that he had received
many emails of concerns over wildfires from residents and asked how
the service responded to concerns from residents. The Chief Fire
Officer offered to share a statement with members that could be
passed on to residents. A Member queried the use of barbecues in
public spaces. The Chief Fire Officer cautioned the public to use
barbecues as per manufacturer’s instructions and to clean up
after themselves. Furthermore, to avoid
undertaking bonfires during periods of heightened fire
risk.
- The
Members discussed and agreed their recommendations and invited SFRS
to report back in December. The
Chairman paid tribute to the progress SFRs is making.
The Communities, Environment and Highways Select
Committee
1.
Commends the commitment to
improvement work in hand to implement the HMICFRS inspection
2021.
2.
Ask SFRS to report back to
Committee once the latest HMIC Inspection report is received; and
to agree a date for follow-up scrutiny.
3.
Works with SFRS to arrange a
programme of site visits for Committee Members.
Actions and requests for
information:
- The
Committee asked the Chief Fire Officer to provide the committee
with a list of schools that aren’t taking up the offer of
school engagement visits.
- Chief Fire Officer to confirm on the implementation of the
wildfire awareness events in Chobham and inform the committee of
the dates they have and will occur.
- SFRS to provide statistics on deaths related to fire, road, and
water that Surrey has had for the last 5 years.
- SFRS to provide the wildfire statement to the
Committee.
- SFRS and Democratic Services to set up a meeting/site visit for
members education regarding what SFRS does in depth.