Witnesses:
Sinead Mooney, Cabinet Member for Children and
Families
Rachael Wardell, Executive Director – Children, Families
and Learning
Lucy Clements, Interim Director of Integrated Childrens
Commissioning
Matt Ansell, Director for Family Resilience and
Safeguarding
Eamonn Gilbert, Assistant Director –
Commissioning
Sue
Turton, Service Manager Early Help Partnerships
Key points
made in the discussion:
- The Chair noted that
Children’s Services accounted for a quarter of the
Council’s £1.1 billion revenue budget. The Chair asked
of the £250 million spent by Children’s
Services, what percentage was spent on third party
contractors. The Interim Director of
Integrated Children’s Commissioning offered to provide a
written response.
- The Interim Director
of Integrated Childrens Commissioning gave a summary of the paper
and stressed the importance of understanding the needs of the
population. This understanding informed the service model and
commissioning model. The Interim Director noted that financial
constraints and increasing complex needs post Covid had been
challenging for the service. The report also focused on family
centres and family resilience 1-1 family support models that worked
together with local services. The Interim Director shared positive
verbal feedback from inspectors from the SEND inspection in
September 2023.
- A Member asked
following the award of a contract, was it sensible that past
performance was not considered when commissioning The Interim
Director explained that the procurement process must be fair to all
bidders. As part of the quality questions, providers could input
their positive past performance to demonstrate their
knowledge.
- A Member asked the
Interim Director what the realities and challenges of delivering
commissioning services were. The Interim Director noted that
commissioning collaborated with operational teams who had a good
grasp of operating models and challenges. She discussed the
community research and outreach on early help, co-designed
community sessions, partnership forums, market engagement events
which shared the proposed commissioning model - all ways the
commissioning team continued to meet the needs of Surrey
residents.
- A Member asked how
challenges with commissioning were being addressed. The Assistant
Director of Commissioning noted that now was the opportunity for
innovation. Mainstream schools’ new funding systems had been
introduced to allow schools the flexibility to deliver based on
individual student’s needs. The Assistant Director emphasised
that the private market was used and there must be a balance
between what the service wanted and needed and what providers
wanted and needed.
- A Member noted that
many charities providing Short Breaks would not agree that
children’s needs were being met. The Interim Director agreed
that Commissioning must meet the needs of residents and noted the
Member’s frustration. The Chair noted that she has received
similar feedback from charities as well and hoped that
collaboration could be improved going forward.
- A Member asked how
barriers faced by smaller partners like local charities were
tackled so that they were not disadvantaged. The Assistant Director
of Commissioning answered that there was an effort to not create
artificial thresholds, but the quality of providers was the biggest
consideration. The voluntary sector usually had a good local
footprint, but the Council must ensure that there was a fair
bidding process.
- The Cabinet Member
for Children and Families suggested that the Committee look at the
outcomes of the report and note the improvements. Outcome data
reporting was being improved on. The Cabinet Member noted that
young people in children’s services would eventually transfer
to Adult Social Care and a close partnership with that Directorate
was vital so that social service needs were being met across a
person’s life.
- The Chair noted
frustration at the lack of progress on outcomes for children and
young people with mental health difficulties at the previous
Adults and Health Select Committee
joint meeting but noted the improvement at the
recent MindWorks meetings.
- The Chair noted that
since 2018 there had been a policy to reduce the financial envelope
of contracts in the Children’s Service by 10% and asked
why this policy was continuing despite the current increased demand
and high inflation. The Cabinet Member for Children and Families
noted that that policy was being considered more
broadly.
- The Executive
Director for Children, Families and Learning noted that she had not
felt constrained by this policy. The Director noted that although a
reduction policy was not ideal in a climate of high inflation and
costs, efficiencies and mitigations would have to offset to make up
for the extra spend if the policy were dropped. The Executive
Director said that when setting the budget for 2024-25, the policy
could be reconsidered, but emphasised the need for offsetting
costs.
- The Service Manager
Early Help Partnerships gave a summary of family centres and family
resilience recommissioning. The Plan was to bring together the
family centre provision and early help provision and create a more
efficient system through a lead provider based on a
district/borough level who have vital local knowledge. Shared
outcomes would be monitored closely through quarterly performance
discussions. The Service Manager emphasised the importance of
joining up partnerships in local areas and that the Council would
be retaining the same level of family centres as the previous 5
years and hoped that the new model would bring together larger
existing national providers and smaller local
providers.
- A Member asked a
further question regarding the 10% reduction to the budget
envelope. Would the recommissioned family centre and family
resilience plan have the 10% cut or would that provision be
removed. They also asked for those using the services right now,
under the new disposition what were the consequences of the
commission, and would it be an improvement for users? The Executive
Director for Children, Families and Learning answered that
currently there had been a 10% decrease and the budget options were
closed. Finding alternative areas to reduce spending was explored
but this was the better option.
- The Service Manager
Early Help Partnerships stated that families should not see a
substantial change in the way they got support from family centres
as feedback had been positive so far. Users could gain access to
additional resources which could come from national funding
initiatives. In areas where there was more demand and pressure,
timeliness could also be improved. The Interim Director of
Integrated Children’s Commissioning added that
the provision to the tender document meant that a provider could
come back with a business case after one year if they require
uplift. Providers should focus their budget on family centres and
remainders of the budget were allocated on evidence-based family
resilience services.
- A Member noted that
the family centres and family resilience models focused on
prevention which could save expenditure in the long term and asked
why investment was lower not higher year on year. The Chair noted
that prevention was considered at the forefront of Children’s
Services and that other local authorities rated as excellent
invested a lot in early intervention and early help.
The Executive Director for Children, Families and
Learning said that a cost-benefit analysis of early prevention was
difficult to demonstrate, also challenged by the fact that not
every authority used the same cost centres/cost codes so direct
comparisons were difficult to draw.
- A Member asked if
funding would not be able to be directed to Early Help as it was
not a statutory requirement for the Council. The Executive Director
for Children, Families and Learning noted that funding for
statutory duties such as placements or home to school travel
assistance could not be redirected and that when there was a
limited budget, statutory duties must be the priority.
- The Chair asked for
more information on how level 2 and 3 were provided in the new
contract. The Executive Director for Children, Families and
Learning noted that Family centre contracts included level 2 and 3
work. Level 3 was one-on-one with families whereas level 2 was done
on a group basis so dependent on borough and districts.
- A Member noted that
demand for Family Centres was exceeding capacity and asked if there
were options to increase the number of family centres and if level
2 referrals would still be made to family centres. The Service
Manager Early Help Partnerships noted that as part of the new
commission Early Help and Family Centres had been put together,
Family centres had always provided early intervention and early
help for Surrey residents. Within service specifications the
Council would like people to bring their own buildings into the
models such as utilising other spaces to provide more centres to
increase outreach. The Service Manager noted that level 2 would
differ within boroughs and districts. The Member asked for
clarification on how fluid delivery could be within each family
centre. The Service Manager answered that family centres offered
targeted family intervention tailored to each family.
- A Member asked if the
number of Family Centres would be reduced and if level 2 referrals
would still be made to centres. The Director for Family Resilience
and Safeguarding answered that the number of Family Centres would
remain the same and that the service was moving away from
discussing families on a tier system and instead looking at
improving relationships between families and practitioners. As a
service being flexible around family needs was vital. The Director
expressed hope to have one system going forward so that case
workers were the same for each family to reduce families having to
repeat their stories to caseworkers, unfamiliar with their
case.
- A Member asked a
question on the streamlining of contracts. The Interim Director of Integrated Children’s
Commissioning answered that there were very
robust contract procurement processes. Risks that came up could be
mitigated and resolved in partnership with the contractors. The
Service ensured that the process was equitable across Surrey and
there was no deterioration in quality. The Member asked how to
discern if the lead provider would identify risks. The Assistant
Director of Commissioning answered that the lead provider was
responsible for evidencing and justifying the performance of the
whole contract.
- A Member asked if
there were additional costs under the new plan apart from the lead
providers. The Interim Director of Integrated Children’s
Commissioning answered that there were no additional costs apart
from the lead provider. The service would be meeting with all
providers and sub-contractors to ensure that changes to the model
had not led to negative outcomes during each quarterly
meeting.
- A Member asked if the
witnesses could advise the Committee on how many registrations of
provider interest in projects had ultimately resulted in new
contracts. The Interim Director noted that this information could
not be shared currently but would do so as soon as it became
available.
- A Member asked a
question on how the Council would manage the lead providers under
the new Commissioning plan. The Interim Director answered that the
Council directly managed 21 contracts, and this would drop to 11
once the lead providers were in place although the lines of
responsibility would remain clear. The Service Manager Early Help
Partnerships noted that market engagement had been done with
providers around Surrey and that colleagues in Districts and
Boroughs felt that a lead provider system would work well for
Surrey. There were 21 family centre buildings that had been and
would be used by providers. This has been in consultation and the
service fully expected this to work in Surrey. Districts and
Boroughs had been invited to all the engagement events.
Actions/requests for further information:
- The Interim Director of Integrated
Children’s Commissioning to provide a written response to
what percentage of the £250 million revenue budget of
Childrens Services is spent on third-party
contractors.
- The Chair to discuss with the
Adults and Health Select Committee Chairman on how they will
collaborate on the scrutiny of children’s mental
health.
- Cabinet Member for Children and
Families and Executive Director for Children, Families and Learning
to discuss the policy to reduce spending by 10% year on year and
share outcome of the discussion with the Committee.
- Cabinet Member for
Children and Familieswill get briefing note
sent to Committee on the £1.2m investment in the Intensive
Family Support Service.
- Director for Family
Resilience and Safeguarding will, in 2024, describe to the
Committee what the Council’s offer to families of varying
degrees of need will look like.
- Director for CFL
Commissioning to provide a written response (a) providing clarity
with regard to contracting arrangements, if lead prime contractors
can provide any kind of management overhead fee and (b) the amount
of level 2 and level 3 support to be provided under the new
contracts compared with currently.
- At a point that
Procurement regulations allow, Director for CFL Commissioning to
share registration of interests of lead providers with the
Committee.
Resolved:
SCC commissions a large number
of both the statutory and non-statutory services provided to
families and children. The Committee recognises that this is a
complex activity and acknowledges progress in introducing more
flexible contracts with break clauses, developments such as the
co-production of requirements with service users, and early
engagement with providers. The recent recommissioning of Family
Centres and Family Resilience services demonstrates this progress
and is commended. In support of this progress the Committee
recommends the following.
- Children’s
Service professionals/practitioners in each area are actively
involved in the development of the commissioning requirements and
specifications – alongside Commissioning professionals
– from the outset of the process.
- Robust consideration
is given to reversing the policy of applying a blanket 10%
reduction to the financial envelope for each service when it is
recommissioned.
- A mechanism for
ensuring that providers can apply for uplifts to cover inflationary
pressures is built into the lifetime of all contracts.
- Where
required, the additional funding to enable points 1 and 2 is found
from outside the Children’s Services’ budget
envelope.