Witnesses:
Matt Furniss, Cabinet
Member for Highways, Transport and Economic Growth
Katie Stewart,
Executive Director for Environment, Growth, Land, Property and
Infrastructure
Lucy Monie, Director
for Highways and Transport
Paul Millin, Assistant
Director for Strategic Transport
Key points
raised during the discussion:
- The Chairman asked
what could be done to increase the number of registered users of
the Digital Demand Responsive Travel (DDRT) Service. The Assistant
Director for Strategic Transport explained that the number of
people using the service varied across the different DDRT zones,
primarily due to population differences. Every household and
business received publicity about the DDRT service before it
started. Ongoing promotion and publicity were needed, which was
part of the communication plan being developed. Local initiatives
were being looked at to try to encourage greater ridership, such as
through discounts and group travel offers.
- A Member asked how
successful the DDRT’s communication plan had been. The
Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained that numbers
were rising in terms of people subscribing and using the scheme.
Work was being done with the communications team, and the
University of Surrey to see how to increase DDRT usage.
- A Member raised that
Mole valley’s DDRT service was set up as a door-to-door
service, rather than a stop-to-stop service, and asked if this
remained. The Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained
that this was part of the learning. DDRT was offering essential
door-to-door trips but was now only offering a stop-to-stop
service. If a new ‘stop’ was desired, it could be
assessed and made available to residents. The Stop-to-stop service
made services more available for residents.
- A Member raised that
between 10-15% of the cost of running DDRT services was recovered.
The Member asked what the realistic cost recovery ambition was once
the services were established, and if there was an indication of
how much, per journey, the Council was subsidizing for the Mole
Valley District. The Assistant Director
for Strategic Transport noted that DDRT was not introduced to
become a commercial offer. DDRT was successful in areas with
relatively low levels of public transport. As DDRT became more
established and optimised, it was reasonable to achieve between
20-25% of cost recovery in running the service.
- A Member asked what
proportion of the £4.85 million (m) budget for DDRT was being
funded through government funds, and if there was any further
Government Rural Mobility Funding available. The Assistant Director
for Strategic Transport explained that the Rural Mobility Fund
grant, allocated to Mole Valley’s DDRT service, was a 2-year
grant finishing in May 2024, and would be fully utilised. Bus
Service Improvement Plan (BSIP) Phase 2 funding was the other
source of funding, where around £2.4m would be applied for
DDRT for the current and next financial year of
2025/26.
- The Member asked if
the DDRT funding was sustainable, and if the Council could continue
the service if there was no further government funding. The
Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained that there had
been transparency over what the current costs of DDRT were, and the
future ambitions for more DDRT across Surrey, which was fed into
the medium-term financial plan.
- The Cabinet Member
for Highways, Transport and Economic Growth explained the Cabinet
was committed to DDRT, and funding was put aside for it in the
budget. The Council was not aiming for DDRT to break even. The
Council was providing public transport services in non-commercial
areas to ensure no one was left behind and was meeting the
transport, climate change and emissions targets. DDRT was not
cheaper than subsidizing a fixed bus route, but it was more
flexible and targeted to residents. DDRT’s budget was less
than the subsidised fixed bus network, which currently stood at
£11 million, which conveyed DDRT’s value for money. The
Mole Valley programme was the best performing government subsidized
programme in the country and with time other DDRT areas would grow
to this level.
- The Member asked what
happened before the DDRT schemes were introduced in September 2023,
and referred to the West Guildford scheme, where there had been an
approximately 45% increase in the number of passengers journeys
every week, compared to before DDRT was introduced. The Assistant
Director for Strategic Transport explained that following the
public and stakeholder consultation, there were several socially
necessary services that were subsumed into DDRT. Data could be
retrieved on those services in terms of passenger numbers and
provide a comparison in the DDRT zones. In terms of engagement, the
strategic transport team would be surveying users to understand
journeys were made before DDRT.
- In relation to the
Council funding and operating many bus services in Surrey, a Member
asked if thought was being given to establishing the
Council’s own Bus franchise. The Assistant Director for
Strategic Transport explained that through the national bus
strategy, ‘Bus back better’, published in March 2021,
all local transport authorities in England were asked to assess, as
part of the BSIP, if there was a want to explore franchising or an
enhanced partnership model for bus operation. The Council chose to
establish the enhanced partnership model. The county deal framework
conveyed an opportunity that local authorities, including Surrey,
could consider bus franchising. The Initial step for bus
franchising would be securing approval from the Secretary of State.
The cost the franchising model was significant, and no County
Council to date had implemented one. Around 70% of bus journeys in
Surrey were made on commercial services, without Council
involvement.
- A Member asked what
the target number of passengers per day that DDRT was aiming for to
achieve value for money. The Member also asked what the other
measures of success were. The Assistant Director for Strategic
Transport explained that the measures of success for DDRT were
being developed, which would include things such as passenger
satisfaction ratings. It was also about understanding the improved
geographical accessibility for residents. Currently, the average
number of passengers per operating hour across all the DDRT
services was 1.55. A target had been set for 2.5 and 3 passengers
per operating hour. The current rate for customer satisfaction was
95%. The completed performance targets would return to the
committee.
- A Member asked If
there were opportunities to transport children to a place where
they could get a commercial bus or a safe walking route to school.
The Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained that DDRT
was not a school transport service. DDRT could be used to get to
other modes of transport, such as a train station to help with
school travel. Most children in mainstream education who were
entitled to travel assistance were travelling on buses and coaches,
which was the most cost effective. Most taxis procured by the
Council for travel assistance were for children being educated in a
special education needs (SEND) setting. It was not simple to use
DDRT vehicles for SEND children due to the safeguarding and support
measures required. If DDRT was used for home-to-school transport,
it would take it out of service for a period in the morning and
afternoon, preventing other residents form using DDRT, defeating
the rational of DDRT.
- A Member reference
the service Chatterbus which offered school transport
services. The Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained
that Chatterbus had a different operating model, choosing to
provide a transport to a local school for a period in the morning.
This was working well, but Chatterbus was not a DDRT
service.
- Regarding safe routes
to school, the Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained
a review of safe routes to schools was underway, which was looking
at individual schools across the county in terms of entitlement of
children and routes to see if there was an opportunity to make some
of the routes safer by interventions which were not necessarily
high cost, such as rights of way that could be opened up for
children travelling to school.
- The Cabinet Member
for Highways, Transport and Economic Growth added there was a piece
of work being done with operators to see if the use of DDRT could
be maximised. There was a distinct pattern in Mole Valley of people
using the DDRT service for medical appointments, rather than a taxi
or a fixed bus route.
- A Member asked about
the publicity and communications plan behind the DDRT service. The
Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained a more
detailed communications plan could be brought back to the committee
for scrutiny. All the contact detail for Surrey Connect were on the
public website, and the e-mail address where people could request
an additional pick-up point in the locality was surreyconnect@surreycc.gov.uk.
- A Member raised an
issue in Chobham with accessing appointments at the Chobham and
West End Medical Practice. The Assistant Director for Strategic
Transport explained that this was a known problem and the Strategic
Transport team had been discussing how this could be
improved.
- A Member asked if
there was an analysis showing the catchment areas for specific
geographical locations not using the DDRT service. The Assistant
Director for Strategic Transport explained that these areas would
be identified in the communications plan, to increase DDRT usage.
If Members felt there was a cohort of residents that needed to
receive more publicity, this could be reviewed. Opportunities to
slightly extend the operating area of DDRT, to bring in a new
community that would not adversely impact how the service operated
in terms of efficiency, could be reviewed.
- A Member asked what
options existed for extending more regular services during the
afternoon. The Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained
that there was the same number of vehicles in all DDRT areas
operating throughout the day. All Surrey Connect services were
currently operating from 7.00am to 7.00pm Monday to Friday and
8.00am to 6.00pm on a Saturday. Therefore, the afternoon period was
still well-served. In some areas more vehicles were being
introduced, increasing the ability of users using DDRT.
- The Member suggested
the team could look at doing more regular routes or frequent
services during the afternoon when there were rail strikes. The
Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained this was
difficult as resource needed to be available to provide the
replacement service, with often little notice of a rail strike
timetable. It was more complicated with an overtime ban. Work was
done with operators to see what could be done in these situations,
but it was difficult to respond.
- A Member asked what
the timeframe was for the roll out of DDRT in the areas of
Elmbridge, Reigate and Banstead and Spelthorne. The Assistant
Director for Strategic Transport explained that the areas in the
report had already started to be looked at to see what the
opportunities for DDRT were. The expanded DDRT services, the areas
of which could not yet be shared, would start in 2025, likely in
September.
- A Member raised that
the Padam (booking and scheduling software), feedback option did
not allow users to feedback when they could not book a DDRT bus.
The Member asked what the capacity of the DDRT service was and how
the capacity could be increased without that feedback option. The
Assistant Director for Strategic Transport noted that a learning
point was around when a resident was unable to book a trip on DDRT,
how would this be known and how could it be learnt from. This was
currently being worked on with Padam. Another learning point was
around short-term cancellations, which the team needed to work out
how to deal with these. Part of this was about improving
understanding among residents around providing more notice of
cancellations. Once these learning points were resolved, the
availability and utilisation of the DDRT service would
improve.
Actions:
- To bring back the
communications plan to the committee for scrutiny, once
completed.
- Assistant Director of Strategic
Transport to provide figures on the cost of DDRT’s per
passenger trip in Mole Valley.
- Assistant Director of
Strategic Transport to share comparative data on the passenger
numbers from the socially necessary services that were subsumed by
DDRT, before and after DDRT was in place.
- Assistant Director of
Strategic Transport to share the results of a future survey on how
DDRT passengers were making journeys before DDRT was in
place.
- Performance targets
for DDRT, once completed, to be presented to the Select Committee
for scrutiny.
Resolved:
The
Committee agreed the following recommendations:
- Recommends
and supports the development of a clear set of
performance measures, targets and metrics around take up of
the service to provide Cllrs and residents clarity over the success
of service take-up and on where to focus communications or other
efforts to encourage take-up; as well as clarity over where targets
are not being met so that decisions around value for money can be
made.
- Supports
the development and implementation of a communications plan
to support the introduction of the new Surrey Connect DDRT services
which will be vital to growing patronage on existing and new
services and agrees the recommendation that this be bought back to
the Committee for scrutiny at a date to be agreed with
officers.
- Notes that
this is an expensive service benefiting a relatively small number
of people and that ongoing monitoring of the success and take up
of the service is therefore critical and requests that the
Committee is kept up to date on progress and that a report is
submitted in 6 months’ time (by end October
2024).
- Encourages further exploration of opportunities to expand and
maximise use of the service to address
resident needs for example to access medical
appointments.