Witnesses:
David Lewis, Cabinet Member for
Finance and Resources
Nicola
O’Conner - Strategic Finance Business
Partner
Rachel Wigley
– Director Finance Insight and Performance
Nicola
Kilvington – Director of
Corporate Strategy and Policy
Tony
Orzieri – Strategic Finance
Business Partner
Louise Lawson
– Strategic Finance Business Partner
Denise Turner
Stewart, Cabinet Member for Customers and
communities
Natalie
Bramhall, Cabinet Member for Property and Waste
(Remote)
Kevin
Deanus – Cabinet Member for Fire
and Rescue, and Resilience
Matt Furniss, Cabinet Member
for Highways, Transport & Economic
Growth
Key Discussions:
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A Member asked how the Council’s financial
position compared to other Councils and if transformation
activities were on track to achieve savings. The
Cabinet Member for Finance and Resources answered
that the Council was on a sound financial footing and that
transformational activities would take place over a 5-year period
but faced variable challenges such as a new government and changes
in grants and funding. The Director Finance Insight and Performance
noted that compared to other County Councils, Surrey was fairing a
lot better, and the Council had worked diligently over the last
five years to improve their financial position. The Member asked
for clarification on a comparative league table, the Director of
Finance agreed to send information on borrowing requirements
compared to the revenue budget.
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A Member asked what potential deterioration of
services that fell under the remit of the Committee could be
expected considering the year-on-year deterioration in budget.
The Executive Director of Environment,
Infrastructure & Growth noted that the
focus was on finding efficiencies in the budget and driving more
value out of existing contracts such as Waste contracts, not
service cuts. The Executive Director emphasised that there
wasn’t an area that fell in the remit of the Committee that
would see a service reduction. The Member asked if the Council was
still trying to lobby Government for a better funding formula for
road maintenance. The Executive Director noted that the Leader of
the Council was chairing the County Council Network, and the
Council was exploring a host of solutions to improve funding.
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The Cabinet Member
for Highways, Transport & Economic Growth
noted that the funding formula criteria had been raised with the
Secretary of State for Transport, who was open to the idea of
changing the formula and offered to report the outcomes of meetings
with Department for Transport officials.
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A Member asked if the Council was confident in the
assumptions that had been made around non-pay inflation. The
Strategic Finance Business Partner noted that the level of
inflation had a huge impact on budget pressures and that the impact
had been significant. The corporate non-pay assumption was 5% in
the draft budget and would be reviewed ahead of the Final Budget
proposals which were due to be presented to Council in February.
It was noted that the corporate
inflation assumptions were only used where there was no other
insight. Inflation on food, fuel and in specific markets such as
children’s social care where rates exceeded the corporate
assumption. In addition, where contract
terms and conditions included annual inflationary uplifts,
inflation assumptions in the draft budget were made consistently
with these terms. Inflation had come down recently and the forecast
was for inflation to reduce further in the coming year.
Capital Programme
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A Member asked if the Council should lower
aspirations to further reduce underfunded capital borrowing and if
this could be an area to close the budget gap. The Cabinet Member
for Finance and Resources answered that the capital budget was put
together considering statutory duties and what was affordable. An
affordability test was applied to ‘unfunded’ capital
projects which receive no grants and are not self-financing and a
cap was placed on unfunded capital borrowing. Although the Capital programme is ambitious, we
are not doing everything we want to do. The Cabinet Member
explained that due to the time lag any reduction in capital budget
for 2024-25 would not close the revenue gap for 2024/25 but would
have an impact from 2025/26 onwards.
The Member noted the reduction in highway
maintenance capital by £30 million in two years’ time
and suggested this would have a significant impact. The Cabinet
Member for Finance and Resources noted that this was not a
reduction in core highways investment, but the budget reflected the
commitment of this Council for an enhanced capital budget and
investment for highways to the end of this Council term. It would
be for future Council to decide on future priorities but emphasised
that highways would always be maintained. The Member noted that
land based solar farms were not in the capital funding. The
Cabinet Member for Customers and Communities agreed
to send how much of the capital funding would be invested in green
projects. The Cabinet Member for Finance and Resources
noted that the greener futures agenda was embedded
in every project by the Council and that details of some Greener
Futures schemes were included in the Capital Pipeline which was
subject to robust business case before being included in the
capital programme.
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A Member asked what assumptions had been made about
the Your Fund Surrey capital investment programme over the
Medium-Term Financial Strategy. The Cabinet
Member for Customers and Communities noted that the
criteria was constantly being reviewed to prioritise projects with
greater impacts.
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A Member asked what number of projects was in the
pipeline to be considered as well as their value. The
Cabinet Member for Customers and Communities
answered that £10 million had already been
committed for the next year with a plan for up to 300
projects.
Directorate Budgets
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A Member asked how much funding The Council could
expect from the changes to the HS2 Funding and if the Council could
use the funding to reduce existing capital costs or new improvement
projects. The Executive Director for Environment,
Infrastructure & Growth noted that the Council
would receive an additional £2.6 million in 2023/24 as part
of the minimum additional funding of £82 million from 2023/24
until 2033/34. Whether the funding could be used for additional
projects was still being explored. The Cabinet Member for Highways, Transport & Economic Growth noted
that the £2 million was guaranteed funding but the Council
was trying to gain additional funding. The Member queried if the
£2 million had to be spent this financial year and how much
government funding had the Council received for road maintenance.
The Strategic Finance Business Partner said
that the main grant was £25.7 million a year from the
Government.
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A Member expressed concern about the efforts of
charities preparing bids for Your Fund Surrey which may have little
chance of success given the funding constraints and reductions to
the fund. It was important to be open and honest with applicants if
there were not sufficient funds available to fund applications in
the pipeline. The
Cabinet Member for Customers and Communities
noted that these issues had been factored into the
expected allocation and that pipeline applications had been
rigorously assessed. Officers worked closely with applicants and
applicants were only being denied if they did not fit the criteria.
The Cabinet Member noted that applicants should contact the Council
to discuss the criteria and how they could meet
it.
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A Member asked what assurances there were for
highways and environment services in the 2024/2025 budget as it was
the most important outcome for Surrey residents in a recent public
survey. The Cabinet Member for Finance and
Resources said that those services would not be
impacted by the budget gap.
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A Member asked if the Council should be using
reserves for core services and if a £700,000 efficiency was
realistic and achievable for the SFRS considering the new list of
required improvements. The Chief Fire Officer said that the
£700,000 in efficiencies were achievable.
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Following discussion of the Committee’s draft
Budget recommendations it was resolved that:
RESOLVED
That
the Communities Environment and Highways Select
Committee
- Supports in broad terms the budgetary approach set out in the
slides
shared
with the Committee including the directorate efficiency
proposals
and the
broad goal to achieve efficiencies without any reduction
in
service or
visible impact to residents over the immediate 24/25
financial
period and
in future years.
- Supports the Capital programme which remains ambitious,
specifically
the
ongoing investment in highways and roads improvement,
flooding
and
drainage schemes and greener futures programmes.
- Notes that revenue funding gaps persist particularly in relation
to the
Environment, Transport and Infrastructure budget where a further
£8m
reduction
is still to be found. Notes with some concern that this gap
does
not
reflect the full £8.7m required to fully implement the Task
& Finish
group
recommendations although it does reflect the lower
investment
amount of
c. £5m to address this work.
- Further notes the results of the public engagement consultation
and
feedback
to Councillors which shows that better roads and pavements
is
of the
highest priority to residents; and therefore, recommends
that
spending
on protecting our highways assets and infrastructure should
be
prioritised in line with residents wishes and priority given to
plugging this
funding
gap in further budget discussions.
- Supports continued investment in ITS schemes to improve Road
Safety
and urges
Cabinet to remain focused on the need to reduce deaths
and
injury on
Surrey’s roads and for funding to be looked at for future
years.
- Highlights that tackling climate change remains a high priority
for
residents
as evidenced by the Surrey Says open survey exercise and
urges
Cabinet to ensure this continues to be reflected in budget planning
over the MTF period as further cuts are sought.
Actions/requests for further information:
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Director Finance Insight and Performance (Rachael Wigley)
to Share league table slide setting out projected borrowing
requirement compared to other Councils with Cllr Baart.
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Cabinet Member for Highways, Transport & Economic
Growth (Matt Furniss) to feedback outcomes from meetings with
Department for Transport officials around the Highway Funding
Formula.