Witnesses:
Denise
Turner-Stewart, Deputy Leader and Cabinet Member for Customer and
Communities
David Lewis, Cabinet Member for Finance and
Resources
Sinead Mooney,
Cabinet Member for Adult Social
Care
Nicola
Kilvington, Director - Corporate Strategy &
Policy
Louise
Lawson, Strategic Finance Business Partner
–
Customer &
Communities
Nikki O’Connor, Strategic Finance Business
Partner –
Corporate
Rachel Wigley, Director – Finance Insights
& Performance
Daniel Shurlock, Customer & Communities Strategic
Lead
Susan Wills, Assistant Director for Cultural
Services
Jean-Pierre Moore, Head of Community
Partnerships and Prevention
Matt Marsden, Strategic Finance Business Partner
– CFL
Key points
made in the discussion:
- A Member asked
witnesses why library income levels were declining and what plans
were in place to counteract that. The Deputy Leader and Cabinet
Member for Customer and Communities said that extensive efforts had
been made to find alternative provisions due to the temporary
closures recently. The Deputy Leader noted that the service had
faced risks such as planning issues or procurement, but this had
all been tracked timely and vigorously. The Assistant Director for
Cultural Services noted that while the library went under
refurbishment in Redhill, a temporary library in a Council owned
site would be in place. This new library space directly under the
current library would mean as little disruption as possible to
residents and the Council would still be able to utilise the space
for events. The Assistant Director offered to meet with the Member
outside the meeting to hold a discussion about the Redhill library
interim and refurbishment plans.
- A Member noted that
there was a proposed £100,000 shared reduction in funding
from the Council to the Voluntary Community and Faith Sector (VCFS)
in 2024/2025. The Member asked how the diverted funding would be
used and the repercussions for the organisations. The Deputy Leader
noted that there would be a period of transition. The Head of Community Partnerships and Prevention
noted that during the period of transition they would help the
charities be more independent. The
actual amount of the efficiency was £68k, rounded to
£0.1m for the purposes of the budget papers. The Council had invested £100,000 in the
Strategic Strength Transformation Fund from the Community
Foundation for Surrey that was available for the whole voluntary
sector. The VCFS would also be putting around £230,000 in the
same fund. This funding would empower smaller grassroot
organisations to access better funding as part of a long-term
funding strategy. The Member asked to see the impact assessment of
the funding reductions. The Head of Community Partnerships said
that he could share it with the Committee.
- A Member asked to
hold a conversation with the Head of Community Partnerships and
Prevention regarding the voluntary sector within Surrey. The Head
of Community Partnerships and Prevention agreed.
- A Member noted that
Surrey Youth Focus’s funding had already been cut, impacting
their work. The Deputy Leader said that there had been a safety net
around this transformation with additional funding to create
capacity and resource around infrastructure
organisations.
- A Member emphasised
the need to create a longer-term financial plan for the voluntary
sector. The Cabinet Member for Finance and Resources said that
there was a budget gap and if more funding was being asked for, it
had to be considered where it would be drawn from.
Draft CFL
Budget and Medium-Term Financial Strategy
- The Cabinet Member
for Children and Families, Lifelong Learning noted that the
proposed budget did not impact funding for children with additional
needs and that the Council was bound by statutory duties to provide
certain services. The Chair noted the need to comply with statutory
duties but felt that the Council shouldinvest more
heavily in early intervention.
- A Member asked
witnesses how achievable the £9 million in efficiencies
identified were. The Strategic Finance
Business Partner for CFL said that although the efficiencies
were ambitious, he wanted to provide assurance to Members that they
were achievable.
- The Chair asked if
the Cabinet was being pessimistic on the achievability of
efficiencies, 60% of which were rated as amber or red. The Strategic Finance
Business Partner for CFL noted that with time and better
data, the Council would become more confident in the deliverability
and achievability of efficiency savings. The Executive Director for Children, Families &
Learning noted that there was a distinction between delivery
as expected and delivering services that achieved efficiencies as
well. Services such as solo taxis which had experienced a rise in
route numbers and allocations had all delivered to their intended
targets, but the offsetting pressures of inflation outweighed any
efficiencies.
- A Member asked what
the effect of the 10% spend reduction on contracts being procured
during 2024/25 would be. The Executive
Director for Children, Families & Learning said this
referred to new contracts that had been commissioned and would
expect changes to service delivery models to be more efficient or
to redirect budget to another high priority area to ensure a
balance of priorities was found.
- A Member asked for
clarification of when there had been robust consideration of the
reversing of the 10% reduction policy. The Chair asked to see a
response from witnesses in writing.
- A Member asked how
savings could be achieved through the expansion of children in
fostering care considering the shortage of foster parents. The
Executive Director for Children,
Families & Learning said that there was increased
investment in the recruitment and retention of foster parents. The
Service was also looking to maximise current resources such as
ensuring foster parents had the maximum number of children they
could look after and looking at utilising capacity elsewhere in the
system when possible.
- A Member asked if the
budget took account of the increase in the number of children
needing Home to School Travel assistance. The Executive Director for Children, Families &
Learning said that the demand for EHCPs was considered in
the budget process and the Service worked on the assumption that
30% of EHCP children would need transport assistance.
- A Member asked a
question on skills development and adult learning in Surrey and
noted that community skills could be paid for by individuals to
help offset the cost of the programmes. The Director for Education
and Lifelong Learning noted that different programmes could be
commissioned or funded through various organisations. The Service
was reviewing changes, but the priority was to still ensure
programmes were affordable to residents but also generating income
for the Council.
- A Member asked what
the outcomes of the recommendation from June 2023 regarding
prioritising community-based play and youth schemes budget for
children with disabilities had been.
The Cabinet Member
for Adult Social Care, formerly Cabinet Member for Children
& Families, answered that the Council was committed to keeping
the budget under review. The Cabinet Member for Children and
Families, Lifelong Learning noted that there had been no further
budget for short breaks but there had been a one-off grant from the
Department for Education which would re-occur next year as a one
off. The Member emphasised the importance of short breaks to
families and children. The Cabinet Member said that the budget was
not being cut but the priority had to be providing statutory
services to thousands of children in Surrey.
- A Member emphasised
the importance of short breaks to families and
children. The Executive Director for Children, Families &
Learning noted that the core budget would not be reduced for
non-statutory additional services. To improve short breaks the
budget would have to be diverted from another area. The need to
meet statutory obligations had to be prioritised.
- A Member noted that
not providing short breaks had a knock-on impact on the finances of
other services. The Cabinet Member for
Children and Families, Lifelong Learning said there was no budget
to increase capacity for play and leisure. The Chair noted that the
reduction in short breaks and play and leisure had profound
negative impacts on the mental health of residents. The Cabinet Member regretted that there was no
budget to meet the demand for play and leisure.
- A Member asked if all
changes identified as a result of the SEND inspection findings
could be accommodated within the budget envelope. The Cabinet
Member for Children and Families, Lifelong Learning expressed
confidence that it could be. The Cabinet had agreed to an extra
£15 million funding over next few years and that was
ringfenced for children with additional needs.
Actions/requests for further information:
- The Assistant
Director for Cultural Services will hold a discussion with Jonathan
Essex on the Redhill library interim and refurbishment
plans.
- The Head of Community Partnerships and Prevention to share
the EIA impact Assessment with the Committee.
- The Head of
Community Partnerships and Prevention and Bernie Muir to discuss
issues currently faced by the voluntary sector.
- The Strategic Finance Partner – Corporate to provide
a written response on whether there are different policies between
adults’ and children’s social care in respect of
inflation or efficiencies automatically applied when
recommissioning.
- Cabinet Member for CFLL to outline evidence of the robust
consideration given to reversing the policy of applying a blanket
10% reduction to the financial envelope for each service when it is
recommissioned.
- Director –
CFL Commissioning and Cabinet Member for Children, Families and
Lifelong Learning to provide what evidence was considered in the
evaluation that led to the decision to reduce the budget for
community-based play and youth schemes for children with
disabilities from 2023/24, explaining how they evaluated the impact
of the cut as well as the financial value and clinical value
(mental and physical) of the initiative.
Resolved:
- In order to give the
voluntary sector stability, Cabinet should increase funding to VCFS
organisations in the Medium-Term Financial Strategy in line with
inflation and outline how it can offer the organisations longer
term stability. These organisations play a crucial role in enabling
and empowering communities and voluntary sector
organisations.
- The aspiration of
prevention should be supported by restoring the £0.37m play
and leisure short breaks cut from the 2023/24 budget, which has had
significant detrimental repercussions on some of the most
vulnerable families. This is in addition to applying for the
Department for Education’s Short Breaks Innovation Grant,
which supports new and complementary short breaks services. It
should be noted that the DfE funding, if awarded, would not replace
the play and leisure short breaks which were cut in
2023/24.
- Rather than being
classed as an overspend, the £16.3m 2023/24 pressures
identified as historic (in CLA placements, home to school travel
assistance, Special Guardianship Order rates, children with
disabilities packages of care, care leavers) should be incorporated
into the CFLL budget envelope going forward.
- If the Council is to
stay on track with “getting to good” whilst meeting
demands for statutory services and supporting the ambition of
“no one left behind”, the CFLL budget envelope for
2024/25 should increase to £283.91m. This
comprises:
-
249.8m opening budget
-
+ 39.9m pressures
-
+ £0.37m play and leisure
restoration
-
6.16m for the green and 60% of red and amber
identified efficiencies that the Committee considers are likely to
be achieved.
A smaller budget risks both the “getting to
good” strategy and the guiding principle of the 2030
Community Vision that no one is left behind.
- Should any proposed
changes to the delivery of adult education come from the
current review of cost to run the Council’s sites versus fees
earned, there should first be a full and formal exploration of how
any changes would impact residents’ access to community
learning and adult skills. This recommendation is made in the
context of the Council’s strong commitment to deliver the
Surrey Skills Plan and promote skills and education to grow a
sustainable economy, together with the proposed Level 2 County Deal
which would devolve Adult Education functions and the core Adult
Education Budget to the Council.