HEALTHWATCH SURREY PRESENTATION
Witnesses:
Katharine Newman, Intelligence Officer Healthwatch
Surrey
Key points
made during the discussion:
- Healthwatch Surrey
provided a presentation on Discharge to Assess insights and
reflections.
- The Chairman asked
where people could find the hospital guide for carers. The
Healthwatch Surrey Intelligence Officer explained that the
carers’ hospital guide could be found on the Action for
Carers Surrey Website, and it was practical guide on the support
carers were entitled to when the person they cared for were being
discharged from hospital.
- A Member raised that
there did not always seem to be a continuity in communication
between the hospitals and carers. The Healthwatch Surrey
Intelligence Officer explained that the discharge team should be
communicating with the carer and managing people’s
expectations on what would be available to them.
- The Executive
Director for Adults Health and Wellbeing Partnerships (AW&HP)
provided the committee with Surrey-related data. Based on a survey
in 2022/23, 69.5% of carers felt included in discussions on
discharge, against a national average of 64%. The re-launched
jointly produced Surrey Carers Strategy was prioritising carers
with significant co-production work to ensure that the position
would be improved.
- A Member asked if
Healthwatch Surrey had received any feedback from the cloud
telephony system in GP surgeries. The Healthwatch Surrey
Intelligence Officer explained that where it was working it was
working well but there were still some areas where people were
having difficulty.
Recommendations:
- To ensure that
language used for automatic responses reflects a friendlier
approach.
SURREY
HEARTLANDS & SURREY COUNTY COUNCIL DISCHARGE TO ASSESS REPORT
[Item 7]
Witnesses:
Mark Nuti, Cabinet
Member for Health, Wellbeing and Public Health
Helen Coombes,
Executive Director for Adults, Wellbeing and Health Partnerships
(AW&HP)
Paul Morgan, Head of
Continuing Care
Lorna Hart, ICS
Development Director- Surrey Heartlands Health and Care
Partnership
Gareth Howells,
Director of Delivery (East Surrey Place)
Malin Farnsworth,
Consultant- Surrey Downs Health & Care Partnership
Christopher Sin Chan,
Frailty Consultant- Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals NHS
Trust
Sue Tresman,
Independent Carers Lead
Key points
raised during the discussion:
- A Member asked how
Surrey Heartlands ICS had made improvements to streamlining access
to care and advice for frail and elderly residents, providing more
proactive and personalised care. The ICS Development Director
explained that each of Surrey Heartlands ICS places had a model of
care that encompassed discharge to assess, which included access to
information, communication, and engagement with communities. Surrey
County Council (SCC) had been forthright in bringing together
information for all carers. The carers partnership forum, chaired
by the Surrey Independent Carers Lead for Surrey Heartlands ICS,
was bringing together carers from across Surrey Heartlands ICS and
promoting their voice, and the voice of patients.
- The Director of
Delivery (East Surrey Place) explained that a lot of work had been
completed in the past year around Surrey and Sussex Healthcare NHS
Trust’s ‘let’s get you home’ campaign. This
campaign would start with providing consistent information to
patients and carers on what to expect during hospital stays and
after. There was discrepancy in the way some information was given,
such as the needs of patients not being described to the teams
delivering the care, resulting in patients being missed. There was
work to address this and to build on the campaign and the transfer
of care hubs. The places were working across different sectors to
ensure this work would be done correctly.
- The Executive
Director of Adults, Wellbeing and Health Partnerships (AW&HP)
explained that in busier times staff were not all in the right
place and the pressure increased. There had been increased
involvement in daily calls in the last few months reviewing, for
example, how many people would be discharged on a particular day,
and who would need to be involved in this. Extra staff capacity,
particularly on weekends, had been ensured by the Council, along
with flexibility for staff, making it easier to contact families.
In terms of operational processes, AW&HP were trying to work
closely with acute colleagues. There was a monthly Chief Operating
Officer call, attended by all acute hospitals, to hear the
different perspectives. AW&HP had an information advice
strategy until 2026, which had done effective work and needed to be
refreshed post-Covid. Feedback conveyed was that there was too much
information, which might need to be simplified. The carers strategy
would also help address some issues. The Head of Continuing Care
added that The Care Act 2014 assessments would involve people with
a caring role where possible. Due to a fast-paced hospital
discharge environment this had sometimes not occurred. The
Discharge to Assess Task Force had found information sharing to be
an issue, resulting in a workstream to ensure information was
consistent, related it to where people lived and what hospitals a
person would attend. The Connect to Support Surrey website had a
section on preparing for leaving hospital, which was being related
back to each hospital.
- The ICS Development
Director referred to the review completed by Healthwatch Surrey and
Action for Carers for Surrey Heartlands ICS. The recommendations
that came out of this were being followed up on as part of the
Discharge to Assess Task Force and the carers toolkit, that was
being implemented throughout NHS England. It was recognised that
there were problems with communication and engagement with carers,
which Surrey Heartlands ICS was striving to improve, with the good
measures that were already in place to support it.
- The Chairman asked
what processes were in place to ensure there was effective and
streamlined co-operation between different organisations, which
were also within the budgets available. The Executive Director of
AW&HP explained the need to be clear on the role of the
Discharge to Assess Task Force to ensure there was joined-up
evidence. Regarding finance, the NHS planning guidance or
confirmation of the financial envelope for some elements of the
better care fund was not yet visible. Both the NHS and local
authorities were facing pressures on budgets but ensured its
delivery under the duties of The Health and Social Care Act 2012
and The Care Act 2014. The Task Force was ensuring that available
resources were used effectively, and the utilisation of blocked
beds had been improved. The Head of Continuing Care explained there
was a monthly finance and activity performance report which was
reviewed co-operatively with healthcare colleagues as a learning
tool. Finance was discussed at these meetings to ensure that the
£14.4 million financial envelope would arrive at the end of
the year. The main issues related to the discharge to assess time
period being set at four weeks, which had resulted in overrunning.
Work was being done to tackle this throughout the year. Block
contracts were also an issue. The usage of them would need to be
maximised, and removal action had been taken during the year to
ensure there was an upward trend on the usage of block contracts,
currently at 89%.
- The ICS Development
Director explained there was a good governance structure which
supported good decision-making. Commissioners in the NHS and the
local authority were working closely together, and there was a good
relationship at every level. Co-operation was already in a good
place.
- The Director of
Delivery (East Surrey Place) explained monthly meetings occurred
where the activity and cost dashboard were reviewed with the local
area directors for social care. There were daily and weekly calls
with operational social workers to ensure that joint working was
filtered down to the patient level.
- A Substitute Member
referred to the importance of innovation. The Executive Director of
AW&HP explained that despite the work that was being done,
there was more to do.
- The ICS Development
Director added that there was innovation going on, such as
population health management, data, and risk
stratification.
- The Chairman raised a
question around proactive and preventative measures that had been
taken for people coping with frailty. A Surrey Downs Frailty
Consultant explained that recognition and education was a big step
towards a more preventive approach, by recognising frailty as a
long-term health condition, and knowing there was an evidence-based
treatment and intervention, such as with the Rockwood Frailty
Scale. More locally, there was work with local primary care
networks and multidisciplinary team meetings (MDTs), where patients
living with frailty could be proactively given an assessment. This
was the evidence-based treatment for frailty and was done with
health and social care colleagues, voluntary services and in a
neighbourhood setting where patients were known. This resulted in
personalised care plans, which were centralised around what
mattered most to the patient, which were shared with General
Practitioners (GPs) and community teams. There could be a variety
of recommendations from these assessments such as medication
rationalisation and proactive social care engagement. The data
showed that personalised care plans resulted in a significant
reduction in the need for emergency services. There were education
and self-management opportunities for those living with a lower
degree of frailty to try and prevent progression.
- A Member referred to
Surrey Heartlands ICS and Frimley Health’s implementation of
services such as Urgent Community Response, Virtual Wards, urgent
care, and walk-in centres as well as proactive and preventative
community models. The Member asked what
services were the most effective and why, and what actions were
being taken to ensure that carers and patients were aware of all
the options available. From an ICS perspective, the ICS Development
Director noted there was strong joint governance in Surrey
Heartlands ICS, where all evidence was appraised, evaluations were
completed, and learnings were shared. There was a good governance
structure at the place level and Integrated Care Boards (ICB) would
also appraise all the local models and services that were put in
place, which would be fed back into the ICB system
governance.
- The Director of
Delivery (East Surrey Place) explained that the proactive care
hubs, worked best, which used the Rockwood Frailty Scale, and the
risk stratification tools to highlight the patients most at risk of
hospitalization. There was an MDT based in general practice led by
GPs, with community services and acute geriatricians. Virtual Wards
had struggled to get to the desired level, due to
clinical/consultant availability which was being addressed. Linking
the proactive care hubs with urgent community response, community
services, providers, and virtual wards together was having a
significant impact on in-patient flow. There were still
unprecedented demands and a significant number of patients being
redirected which was being linked into the work around the
development of neighbourhoods, ensuring best use of
non-health-based community assets such as the voluntary
sector.
- The Executive
Director of AW&HP acknowledged the challenges in implementing
services and that local place had to be looked at, to understand
what impacts for towns, villages, and some work in local place.
This would be important whilst developing community
support.
- A Member referred to
reablement needing to be better focused on. The Executive Director
for AW&HP explained that reablement was effective and
reasonably cheap and the satisfaction rates were high. The issues
were that it was too small and lacked sufficient capacity. An
ambition was to significantly increase the capacity in reablement
and consider how resources could be moved around to achieve that.
Reablement would reduce the cost of care packages and the amount of
hospital admissions.
- A Member asked about what could be done to better
support carers and if there was adequate training available to
allow for the skills and empathy required in the role. The
Independent Carers Lead explained that one of the difficulties in
supporting carers adequately was identifying where they were. In
the 2021 census, more than 100,000 people had acknowledged
themselves to be carers across Surrey, but the GP patient survey
indicated that it was closer to 18% or 20% of the Surrey
population. There were a variety of initiatives in place across
Surrey Heartlands ICS to support identifying carers, such as
projects which used Better Care Funded services and carer actions
groups within neighbourhoods and places helping to hear the voice
of carers and allow Surrey Heartlands ICS to understand what was
needed. Remembering and including carers was important to help
support them, with progress being made with this at Surrey
Heartlands ICS, as well as acknowledging carer’s expertise
and supporting carers in various initiatives such as training and
contingency planning. Voluntary sector partners were also involved
through the Better Care Fund. The role of the Independent Carer
Lead was a way to hear the voice of carers, such as through
membership of the Health and Wellbeing Board and the Integrated
Care Partnership. Other carers were also used such as Luminous, who
were commissioned to give carers a voice so Surrey Heartlands ICS
could understand and involve carers in the co-production of
training and other services.
- The Member asked what
the data portrayed about re-admissions with care providers, and if
there were any concerns regarding quality or resource needs. The
Executive Director of AW&HP explained that Surrey had a good
market of care providers, with a large percentage having good and
outstanding CQC ratings. Care providers were represented by Surrey
Care Association and the NHS. During the Covid experience, care
providers struggled and there was still a legacy of that. The Head
of Continuing Care added that there was a quality assurance team
within AW&HP that monitored care providers. The readmission
rate for discharge to assess was 11%, compared to a national
readmission rate for older people within 28 days of 15%. There were
some cases where care providers struggled to meet the needs of
patients. This was due to issues around what had been communicated
to the carers on what the patients’ needs were. Commissioners
were aware of this and were working with providers and Trusts to
ensure the needs of patients could be met.
- A Member asked about
the mental health support available for carers and how it was being
managed in relation to NHS industrial action and the impact of
Covid-19. The Executive Director of AW&HP explained the
directorate was trying to lead compassionately by recognising when
people were tired, when there was a need for flexibility in working
hours and being visible as leaders and feeding back appreciation.
The Cabinet Member for Health, Wellbeing and Public Health noted
the importance of the transformation work in producing benefits for
staff and improving their working environment.
- The Independent
Carers Lead explained that the latest census conveyed more carers
were providing more hours. The voice of carers was needed to
understand how carers could be supported going forward. One example
of how Surrey Heartlands ICS had responded were through emergency
plans provided to carers, and in the instance of such an emergency
could potentially prevent hospital admissions. The Innovation Fund
as part of the Better Care Fund was also in place which looked at
carer and partner ideas into where there may be gaps. There were
some mental health support pilots that were funded through the
Innovation Fund, based on what carers had said was needed. There
was a new carers partnership group which had representatives from
SCC, the NHS, and carers themselves. This group would hear the
outcomes of the Innovation Fund and services that supported mental
health. If it was felt services were not meeting strategic
requirements it could be escalated through Surrey Heartlands
ICS.
- The Head of
Continuing Care referred to the tools offered to carers, such as
the ‘looking after family or friends’ section on the
Connect to Support Surrey website, Care Act assessments, and carers
prescriptions.
- A Member asked about how the vetting of care
providers was undertaken, ensuring that carers had the skills and
training required for the role. The Executive Director of AW&HP
explained that due to some changes made around visas and
international recruitment, AW&HP had to undertake more activity
in vetting care providers. The association of directors of adult
social care worked closely with the Home Office and Department of
Health and Social Care. There was an information flow that went
into Southeast region association of directors of adult social care
highlighting any concerns around agencies, and in turn alerting the
AW&HP Directorate. A further piece of work would also be
undertaken with the provider. Care providers must had undertaken
several checks and sit on the Council’s Dynamic Purchasing
System (DPS). To get onto the DPS, AW&HP reviewed the
provider’s quality, financial sustainability, and pricing.
Some of the requirements within this system are that providers must
be regulated by the Care Quality Commission (CQC). AW&HP
occasionally had to utilise the provider intervention protocol.
Healthcare colleagues and the local authority worked closely where
joint intervention was required.
- The ICS Development
Director explained that the NHS did not do things separately to
AW&HP in terms of its commissioning. It was recognised that the
Council had a strong commissioning team and a dynamic purchasing
framework, which the NHS partnered in.
- Regarding the NHS
Anchor programme and other programmes that aimed to generate work
opportunities in disadvantaged priority areas, a Member asked what
actions were being taken to foster skills and recruitment in
priority areas and whether adequate sources of provision were being
enforced. The ICS Development Director explained that Surrey
Heartlands ICS had launched The Health and Social Care Academy,
which was set up jointly with the Council and rolled out an
education programme in care homes and home care providers, offering
500 places in year one. There were trainee nursing associates in
the social care and community settings and 41 of these places were
being offered by 2025. Two team leader training qualifications,
funded by Nescot College, had been rolled out. Joint bids were
underway with the Council to support volunteering and the
‘working well programme’, which was helping to support
people who were long-term sick back into work. On 15 March 2024
Surrey Heartlands was going to a career day, which would include
130 schools and colleges. In terms of cohorts that required
engagement, there was a roll-out of in Surrey, for Surrey, by
Surrey, which was offering employment to local people, helping
to address a skilled workforce with the Employee Disability and
Neurodivergent Advice Service. Oliver McGowan training was also
mandatory to all NHS staff.
- A Member suggested it
would be helpful to understand what was meant by the term
complex. The Executive Director of AW&HP explained that
when The Care Act 2014 was established, it set a national framework
for assessing eligibility, and the term complex had become
more important. Since Covid, more people who had activities of
daily living and personal care were seen to be struggling, but
people’s home environment and interaction with the wider
community seemed to be different with an increase in people that
were self-neglecting, hoarding and more isolated.
- A Surrey Downs
Frailty Consultant explained that from a healthcare perspective the
term complex was sometimes referred to people living with
multi-morbidities or frailty. Frailty tended to be the term used in
a clinical setting to identify a group of older people who would
have the highest risk of adverse outcomes, such as disability,
hospital admissions and the need for long-term care. Frailty was
like a long-term health condition, and recovery for those patients
could be unpredictable. Frailty would generally go unrecognised
until a person went to hospital with a crisis, which could result
in more significant harm.
- The Chair asked how
the differences across organisational boundaries were being managed
and how the issues found in rural areas were being managed,
compared to urban areas to ensure there was consistent experiences
and outcomes for people, irrespective of where people lived. The
Head of Continuing Care said the Council wanted to ensure that
people’s experiences and the service offer would be broadly
similar irrespective of where people lived. All places were brought
together to get them to explain their discharge to assess offer and
what the variation was. Aspects concerning what was going on in the
hospital, whether there were criteria in place, and what
information was provided to people around discharge from hospital
was reviewed. Several areas of information were collected as part
of the Discharge to Assess Task Force, which was being brought into
action in a programme plan. As well as this, there was now a
discharge co-ordinator lead in each hospital that communicate to
share learning. Practical things such as a housing protocol for
mental health in hospital discharge which was not being applied to
general hospitals, only mental health hospitals, was being reviewed
to ensure consistent approaches across the county. AW&HP had
reviewed people’s experiences of living with a learning
disability or Autism within a hospital setting, for example, the
length of stay, and if there was a discharge to assess offer like
anybody else. AW&HP would get places to map out their local
services to compare, having also mapped out discharge pathways from
each acute hospital to improve consistency by highlighting
differences and collecting learning together in a coordinated
way.
- The ICS Development
Director explained that The Discharge to Assess Task Force was
maintaining consistency, which also enabled places get together
with partners, to articulate the differences and respect that
places and neighbourhoods needed to be different, effectively
working together and learning from each other.
- The Director of
Delivery (East Surrey Place) acknowledged that the work being done
around the transfer of care hubs was important. East Surrey Place
had a specific challenge with 50% of the activity going to the East
Surrey hospital coming from Sussex. East Surrey was working in
partnership with Sussex partners around how to ensure consistency
for all patients going through the Surrey and Sussex Healthcare NHS
Trust locality. There were some more challenges in rural areas
around accessing some services, but East Surrey Place was working
closely with partners to resolve this.
- In relation to the
impact of the cost-of-living crisis on residents and those living
with more complex needs, a Member asked what work was being
undertaken in supporting community digital needs. Regarding the
cost of living, the Executive Director of AW&HP explained it
was important that people were reminded of the right to claim
attendance allowance. In AW&HP, a lot of assisted technology
was already provided, such as pendant alarms. The Council was
ensuring there was access to things like broadband and ensuring
that people who needed to use this would understand how to. The
Council would like to increase the Technology Enabled Care (TEC),
because it could support a better quality of life for people. There
is work being undertaken into addressing digital inclusion, and
what the impacts would be for those who were digitally
excluded.
- A Member asked what
steps were being taken to ensure technical measures such as
monitoring services, were being used in a timely manner ensuring it
could be understood and accepted, particularly when dealing with
ethnic minority communities, those with dementia, mental health
issues or related. The ICS Development Director explained that
there was some technical monitoring available in care homes such as
WHZAN Blue Boxes, and monitoring for patients at home. The
monitoring services came into the multidisciplinary transfer hub
process, where community matrons and other clinicians reviewed the
data and acted upon it accordingly.
- The Director of
Delivery (East Surrey Place) noted there was an aspiration to
increase the amount of assisted technology and telemedicine that
was used to support frail and complex patients in their homes. The
WHZAN Blue Boxes, in care homes, reported vital measures such as
blood pressure readings back to GPs, allowing the proactive
management of patients.
- A Surrey Downs
Frailty Consultant explained that there was a place for technology
and remote monitoring through virtual hospital provision. It could
be helpful to allow patients to return home sooner and have ongoing
treatment at home. Technology should be utilised in a tailored way
to the patient and their circumstances while also recognising the
importance of face-to-face clinical assessments which could provide
more information.
- The Executive
Director of AW&HP explained that there had been a recent
meeting with several partner organisations, such as the Surrey
Minority Ethnic Forum. There was evidence that some communities
were more likely to end up in crisis and not be able to access some
carer support. There was a piece of work in relation to this that
needed to be worked on. It was agreed to meet with the Surrey
Minority Ethnic Forum again to review if the Council had the
pathways accessible and were sensitive to different cultural
differences, to help ensure people were getting access to services
before a crisis hit and that people felt able to ask for carer
support.
- The Chairman
suggested more needed to be done with communication, both for
people/carers entering the system and for those being discharged,
and to ensure there was coherent and accessible information, that
also considered minority groups. The Chairman asked what was being
done in this area. From an SCC perspective, the Executive Director
of AW&HP explained that there was a lot of resource that sat at
local place, which would be good to build on. Some community
services had recently been welcomed into the council, such as local
area coordinators and community link officers. There was a need to
ensure that the different community services were able to provide
the support at a local place. The Cabinet Member for Health,
Wellbeing and Public Health added that communication and education
was important and tied into the Council’s goal of
prevention.
Actions:
- The Executive Director - Adults,
Wellbeing and Health Partnerships, to
provide a written response on how the organisations providing care
are vetted, to ensure they have the right skills in place to do
their job correctly.
- The ICS Development
Director (Surrey Heartlands) to provide a written response on the
data that was referred to, concerning the NHS Anchor
programme and other programmes, which aim to generate work
opportunities within disadvantaged priority areas. To also provide
an update on what actions are being undertaken to foster skills and
recruitment in our priority areas ensuring adequate sources of
provision are in place.
- The Executive
Director - Adults, Wellbeing and Health Partnerships, to provide a
further written response concerning the availability of Internet and Broadband technology.
Recommendations:
- We think it would be
beneficial for Adult Social Care to produce a simple information
booklet and ensure it is properly distributed amongst
residents.
- To ensure that you
are managing the demand of acute beds required and provide an
update on what is being done to deal with the demand in acute
capacity and the management of it.
- To provide
information on the vetting of care organisations, including what
training is being provided for carers.
- To
provide an update on what changes are being implemented to the
transformation work in response to the report from Healthwatch
Surrey on Discharge to Assess processes, and of how that is that
being reflected within the transformation work.