Witnesses:
Kevin Deanus, Cabinet Member for Fire and Rescue, and
Resillience
Natalie Bramhall, Cabinet Member for Property, Waste and
Infrastructure
Shella Smith, Director for People & Change
Glenn Woodhead, Assistant Director- Workplace &
Facilities
Lesley Graham, Head of Health and Safety
Key points
raised during the discussion:
Audit
Response
- The
Chairman asked what involvement the Cabinet had in the
Council’s Health and Safety Improvement Strategy. The Cabinet
Member for Fire and Rescue, and Resilience explained that the
leader of the Council had signed the Corporate Health and Safety
And Wellbeing Policy, which was reviewed annually and there was
good engagement with himself as the portfolio holder. There were
quarterly reviews on health and safety performance and the Cabinet
Member had a monthly review and portfolio reviews with the Leader
of the Council, where performance and risks were discussed. An
update on health and safety had gone to a meeting of the informal
Cabinet in January 2024, which included progress on the actions
from the internal audit. Once the Health and Safety and Wellbeing
Strategy and Action Plan was developed, it would be shared with the
formal Cabinet. Each portfolio lead within the Cabinet had a
nominated individual as the health and safety lead.
The
Cabinet Member for Property, Waste and Infrastructure joined the
meeting at 10.06am
- The
Head of Health and Safety added that one of the actions from
Internal Audit report was a member’s briefing, which resulted
in the named health and safety leads being supplied to all the
portfolio holders.
- A
Member asked how effective the Corporate Health and Safety Key
Performance Indicators (KPIs) and its reporting system was. The
Head of Health and Safety explained that new KPIs expanded on
previous KPIs and provided a more detailed level of reporting and
trend data, which easily identified areas for improvement. The KPIs
were first recorded in the organisational effective report in March
2024 which showed a decline in the completion rates of accident
incident reviews and the mandatory health and safety training.
There was therefore a bigger focus from the health and safety leads
within their directorates to ensure that report and improvement
rates improved. The quarterly KPIs were taken to the Central Joint
Health, Safety and Wellbeing Committee (CJHSWC), chaired by a
member of the Corporate Leadership Team (CLT). Actions were taken
back from service and health and safety leads to ensure
directorates helped to support improvements. These KPIs are
therefore more reflective than before but would continue to be
reviewed over the next 12 months.
- The
Cabinet Member for Fire and Rescue, and Resilience explained that
officers are measuring KPIs against the same quarters in previous
years to gain an understanding of seasonal differences and
trends.
- A
Member asked for an explanation of the role and importance of the
Chair of the CJHSWC and if the chair’s rotation among CLT
members effected the continuity of expertise and clear
accountability. The Head of Health and Safety explained that the
chair was responsible for overseeing the committee meetings. The
Chair ensured this was reported to CLT, where minutes and slides
were also shared to provide the key findings from the meeting. The
CJHSWC is tasked with promoting and improving Health, Safety and
Wellbeing across the council and complying with health and safety
legislation. The chair of the CJHSWC was an important role,
demonstrating the council’s commitment and legal
responsibility to consult with its employees and representatives on
health and safety matters. Having a member of CLT chair the meeting
was reflective of the importance attributed to the health, safety
and wellbeing of staff and the communities the council
serves.
- In
relation to rotating the role of the Chair among CLT members, the
Head of Health and Safety explained that it provided the
opportunity for each member of CLT to be responsible for and
involved in the promotion and improvement of health, safety, and
wellbeing, and to understand their legal responsibility. It
promoted a wider perspective of issues and areas for improvement
across the whole council – rather than just in one
directorate - and strengthened the message that health and safety
is a collective responsibility. The CLT chair served for a whole
year, which provided continuity and accountability for that
year.
- A
Member asked if the health and safety training for senior
management included executive leaders. The Member also asked why
the health and safety refresher training would not be delivered
until the new Chief Executive takes their post. The Head of Health
and Safety confirmed that the training would be for Executive
Directors and Directors but would confirm this outside of the
meeting. The reason that the refresher training would begin after
the new Chief Executive was in post was due to changes in the
Corporate Leadership Team, with three new executive leaders being
appointed. The mandatory health and safety training was refreshed
every three years.
Action I:
The Head of Health and Safety to check if the Health
and Safety refresher training is for all executive leaders
including Executive Directors.
8.
The Head of Health and Safety added that the audit
report highlighted a completion date for the refresher training of
sometime around 31May, and it had been agreed with Internal Audit
that this date could be extended to 31 December. It was aimed to be
completed before this.
- The
Vice-Chairman asked about the anticipated progress that the
follow-up internal audit would report and what improvements were
expected. The Head of Health and Safety explained it was
anticipated that the follow-up audit would demonstrate
Reasonable Assurance or Substantial Assurance, given
that all but one of the internal audit’s actions had been
completed. The Health and Safety Team were operating as expected to
manage the key risks. Actions were agreed and were completed by the
agreed timescales. Currently, the Strategic Lead for Health and
Safety was the Deputy Chief Executive and the Executive Director of
Resources. Therefore, a new Strategic Lead would need to be
appointed for Health and Safety once the new Corporate Leadership
Team structure had been agreed.
- The
Vice-Chairman asked about the planned timescales for Internal
Audit’s review of Health and Safety. The Head of Health and
Safety explained that internal audit had scheduled health and
safety’s review for quarter two 2024/25, due to the target
dates for implementing the two high risks actions. The first was
reporting to the Resources and Performance Select Committee and the
second was the Corporate Strategy and Action Plan which was going
to a meeting of the Central Joint Health, Safety and Wellbeing
committee on 16 May for approval. The actions were expected to be
completed by the end of May. The Health and Safety review would
hopefully start by the beginning of June.
Asbestos
Management in Community Schools
- The
Vice-Chairman asked why the 23 schools that did not procure
asbestos reinspection through the Council were not picked up and
challenged sooner, and what methodology was employed in contacting
schools to check what works had been undertaken. The Cabinet Member
for Property, Waste and Infrastructure explained that all schools
received revenue funding, which was used for the day-to-day running
costs of the schools, such as head teacher remuneration, energy
bills, teaching materials and maintenance tasks, and that schools
can choose where they procure their property services. The Council
offered property buyback schemes that were available to non-academy
and academy schools. The schemes allowed schools to purchase
various Planned Preventative Maintenance (PPM) compliance
inspections with the appropriate remediation and reactive works.
The buyback scheme was currently administered by the buyback
co-ordinator employed by the Council. From 1 July 2024, this post
would move to Macro, the Council’s facilities management
supplier. There was an expectation that Macro would increase
services offered to schools over the coming years, and potentially
offer the service to other providers such as family centres. There
was no process in place at the time of the Health and Safety
Executive (HSE) visit, but a process had been developed following
the inspection. A compliance questionnaire had been sent out to
schools and site visits would be considered to audit schools’
responses to this. The schools not in the buyback scheme were
contacted by phone to verify their arrangement and establish if
they had asbestos containing materials (ACMs). The schools that had
no ACMs and were not in the buyback scheme were visited by a school
health and safety advisor to discuss arrangements, provide advice
where gaps were identified, and action plan completion timescales
were put in place where necessary. Where an urgent plan was issued,
progress against the actions was followed up by advisors using a
risk-based approach.
- A
Member suggested that better promotion of the buyback scheme and an
explanation to schools of how it worked would be beneficial. The
Cabinet Member for Property, Waste and Infrastructure agreed,
noting that there is a process in place for the knowledge transfer,
though the governing body had to hold Headteachers to account. Each
school had their own access to an online system, and it was found
that some schools had not logged onto the system when inspectors
visited them.
- The
Assistant Director for Workplace and Facilities added that the
scheme had been improved, making it more accountable in terms of
the spend, the cost, and the services received through the buyback
scheme. Therefore, it was more customer focussed and tailored to
individual needs. There was now a drive to promote the buyback
scheme, as it would ultimately be put through the Macro framework,
which would provide incentives to grow the scheme compared to when
it was a purely internal scheme. Within a few months, the buyback
scheme should be an improved service.
- The
Chairman raised if it should be recommended to schools to have a
governor responsibility for safeguarding. The Head of Health and
Safety explained that all schools should appoint a Health and
Safety Governor who should be part of the schools’
committees, and that the Council provided schools with a health and
safety policy template. When a council Health and Safety Adviser
performed an inspection of the school, they would ask the school
governor, or the governor given the responsibility for health and
safety, to attend the inspection to discuss this with
them.
- A
Member asked if officers could provide more details on what was
involved in the joint approach being undertaken by the Health and
Safety Team, Land and Property Workforce, and Facilities Team to
audit and monitor asbestos management plans where the Council was
the employer. The Cabinet Member for Property, Waste and
Infrastructure clarified that the school Health and Safety Advisers
visited 25 schools between October 2023 and March 2024. A further
25 inspections were scheduled for April to July 2024 as agreed with
the Health and Safety Executive. This did not include the 13
schools that were audited in June 2023. Using the Councils asbestos
contractor, Tetra Tech, was being considered to provide additional
capacity to increase the number of schools visited. Land and
Property are liaising with Tetra Tech, who would become one of
Macro’s subcontractors if pursued – the facilities
management contractor responsible for managing all elements of
building compliance for SCC, including asbestos management. The
day-to-day responsibility for health and safety is delegated to the
Headteacher and School Management Team, to ensure risks were
effectively managed at the school. Monitoring visits were an
opportunity to review performance with the school and where gaps
had been identified the schools were provided with an action plan,
which was then followed up on.
- The
Member asked if there were any schools where the council is the
employer in which health and safety performance was of a concern to
the Council. The Head of Health and Safety explained that they were
not aware of any concerning schools with respect to health and
safety performance. The monitoring visits would give the Council
the opportunity to provide a targeted action plan.
- The
Member asked whether the HSE is satisfied with the Council’s
timeframe for monitoring the schools. The Head of Health and Safety
explained that a discussion with the HSE took place in March 2024,
and the principal inspector present at the meeting recognised that
it was a significant undertaking, with around 100 schools where the
council is the employer. It was agreed with the HSE that an
additional 25 visits would be undertaken in addition to those
already completed. The two-year monitoring programme had been
benchmarked against the performance of other neighbouring
authorities. The HSE agreed that this was adequate for
2024.
- A
Member raised a concern around burdening schools with asbestos
management when schools already work in a challenging environment,
especially given rising costs. The Assistant Director for Workplace
and Facilities explained that this was covered in the Asbestos
Management Plans developed for each of the different sites and
schools. It was ensured that the Council’s legal
responsibilities were covered and, within the plans, it would be
identified where the asbestos was and whether it could be contained
or removed. The Assistant Director highlighted that schools, with
the number of pupils moving around the building, were at a higher
risk of having asbestos that was not contained being disturbed.
When asbestos reviews were completed, school sites are assessed to
ascertain whether the asbestos-containing areas could be adequately
contained. It was noted that Facilities Management use a system
called Teams to record information about the specifics of
each different school site and their asbestos-containing
materials.
- A
Member asked what sanctions could be placed on schools if issues
relating to asbestos raised by the council, or advisers, were not
addressed. The Assistant Director for Workplace and Facilities
stated that they would confirm this and respond to members after
the meeting. The council seek to ensure that those situations were
managed correctly, which so far was done very well. The HSE had
managed to identify some weaknesses within the current process,
which work had been done to improve. Within schools where the
council had control, it was easier to ensure asbestos was managed
correctly, compared to schools where the council were not the
employer or had lesser control under the particulars of the lease
agreement.
Action II:
The Assistant Director for Workplace &
Facilities to check if there are any sanctions for schools that do
not comply with requested asbestos works.
- The
Cabinet Member for Property, Waste and Infrastructure added that
there was a high compliance rate of 96%, meaning that such sanction
regimes are seldom necessary. With the Facilities Management
service being outsourced to Macro, this would hopefully improve
further.
Children’s Homes
- The
Vice-Chairman asked if there were any children’s homes where
the council was the employer in which health and safety performance
was of concern. The Head of Health and Safety explained that aside
from the children’s homes opened so far in 2024, all the
homes had had health and safety inspections. Where gaps were
identified, the Home Manager was provided with an action plan and
dates for the implementation of actions. These actions would be
followed up with an adviser within the agreed timeframes. The
Children, Families and Lifelong Learning (CFLL) directorate’s
Health and Safety Advisers had a good relationship with the Home
Managers. One of the children’s home managers sat on the CFLL
Health and Safety Committee, representing the other Home Managers
and ensuring effective two-way communication regarding risks and
issues, feeding these back to other managers. The significant
findings from the inspections demonstrated that the
children’s homes had systems in place to manage health and
safety arrangements. There were
nevertheless some gaps such as with some of the building compliance
records, with statutory certificates not available during the
inspection, gaps in knowledge around the children’s homes
health and safety roles and responsibilities, risk assessments
overdue for reviews and on-site traffic management.
- The
Chairman asked if some context could be given around the
119-workplace health and safety incidents involving employees and
service users recorded on OSHENS (a tool for reporting and
reviewing health and safety incidents and injuries) in the past
year. The Chairman also asked what kind of incidents would be
placed in each category, and if the number was what was expected.
The Head of Health and Safety explained that the health and safety
advisers had been promoting the reporting of incidents on OSHENS
with staff in their directorate for the past year. This resulted in
an increase in numbers being reported, which was seen as a positive
change in reporting, creating an improved health and safety culture
and engagement with staff. It provided opportunities to share
learning and discuss what more the Council could do to support
staff and service users.
- The
Head of Health and Safety provided an overview of the reported
incidents categories. There were 14 incidents placed in the
‘Abuse, threat and violence’ category, comprising
verbal abuse, threatening behaviour, assault, and behavioural
issues. Most of those incidents related to managing challenging
behaviour in young people where staff were unable to put in
suitable de-escalation techniques. Once incidents were reported,
they would follow-up actions and staff training where gaps were
identified, with support from managers. There were 18
‘near-miss’ incidents, which fell into the categories
of ‘Self-harm’, ‘Medication errors’,
‘Illness’, ‘Unplanned medical
interventions’, ‘Harmful substance or exposure to
harmful substance’, ‘Burns through hot liquids or
surfaces’, ‘Contact where children were hit by a fixed
object’ ‘Contact where children were hit by a moving
vehicle’, and ‘A fall from height’. The increase
in near-miss reporting provided insightful data and demonstrated
understanding of the service to record incidents. It was recognised
one or two should have been reported as an injury rather than a
near-miss. There were 87 incidents of injury, including injuries to
staff, children, and young people. These were within areas of
‘Self-harm’, ‘Violence’, ‘Slips,
trips, and falls’, ‘Behavioural issues’,
‘Cuts’, ‘Injuries involving electricity’,
‘Burns’ and ‘Contacts’. Incidents of abuse
and violence against staff or other residents often lead to injury,
some of which could be minor. The more serious incidents were
around self-harm and violence/assault on a person.
- The
Chairman asked if there was an indication of how the categorisation
of incidents compared to that of other local authorities. The Head
of Health and Safety explained that other authorities had a
different make-up and may have had a different number of homes,
children, and age ranges. There had been an increase in the number
of reports, due to the awareness and improved reporting. The Health
and Safety Team worked hard with service leads and representatives
to ensure staff were encouraged to report. It would therefore be
difficult to compare to other local authorities with the different
variables involved.
- The
Head of Health and Safety noted the nature of the incidents,
particularly around incidents of abuse, threats, violence, and
self-harm, were not likely to reduce due to factors such as the
experiences of children and young people in homes.
Resolved:
The
Resources and Performance Select Committee recommends
that:
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In order that Cabinet takes accountability for the
Council’s Health and Safety Improvement Strategy (as
recommended by the Local Government Association),
Cabinet (in addition to the Central Joint Health, Safety and Wellbeing Committee)
endorses the Health, Safety
and Wellbeing Strategy and Action Plan 2024-2026;
-
In
order to promote awareness of the key risks across all
directorates, all Executive Directors are informed and updated on
the Central Joint Health, Safety and Wellbeing Committee by its
rotating chair;
-
The new suite of Corporate Health and Safety Key
Performance Indicators agreed with the
Corporate Leadership Team on 19 September 2023 are presented to Cabinet Members quarterly and included in the
quarterly Resources and Performance Select Committee performance
monitoring reports;
-
Ahead of May 2025, the Members’ Induction
booklet must refer to Health and Safety (H&S), clarifying how
and to whom members should refer any H&S issue that comes to
their attention.