Witnesses:
Matt Furniss, Cabinet
Member for Highways, Transport and Economic Growth
Katie Stewart,
Executive Director for Environment, Growth, Land, Property and
Infrastructure
Lucy Monie, Director
for Highways and Transport
Paul Millin, Assistant
Director for Strategic Transport
Key points
raised during the Discussion:
- In reference to the
twelve national priorities for Bus Service Improvement set by the
Department of Transport (DfT), the Chairman asked what the priority
areas were for improvement in Surrey. The Assistant Director for
Strategic Transport explained that the most important areas to
residents was looked at to invest and improve. Previous
consultations undertaken in Surrey, asking for resident’s
opinions on Bus Service Improvement investment plans and the Bus
Service Improvement plan (BSIP), and the results of your bus
journey survey, highlighted resident’s desire for buses
to be more reliable, run where and when people wanted to travel,
were frequent and had fares set at an attractive level for regular
and new customers. The key issue for bus operators was the need for
more bus priority measures that supported bus reliability. These,
along with the greener futures priority, focussing on decarbonizing
public transport and investment in electric and hydrogen fuel cell
buses were the priority areas for the BSIP and Council
investment.
- A Member asked if
there was a scoring mechanism for funding schemes in accordance
with the priority areas. The Assistant Director for Strategic
Transport explained there was not a scoring criterion, but there
was a governance framework with an enhanced partnership board and a
stakeholder reference group. The two big bus operating companies
sat on the board along with a Small to Medium sized Enterprise
(SME) that were representing the interests of all bus operators.
Investment was going into bus priority measures to improve
reliability and bus enhancements alongside bus operators which made
buses more attractive and frequent, helping to grow patronage.
Investment was going into the fare offer, such as the Surrey link
card introduced in 2023 to support residents aged 20 and under to
access half the adult bus fare. There was investment into more
zero-emission buses, as part of greener future priorities and more
real time information so residents could make better travel
choices. There was hope that more government funding would be
received and there had been previous success with £7.8
million of BSIP funding going to Surrey.
- Regarding
consultation, a Member asked which stakeholders had been involved,
with particular reference to Members. The Member also asked about
the Surrey Enhanced Partnership and Stakeholder Reference Group
(SRG) and how it informed the 2024 BSIP update. The Assistant
Director for Strategic Transport explained there would have usually
been more engagement with Members, but the BSIP timeline, with
draft guidance published end of January 2024 with a deadline of 12
June 2024, took away this opportunity. The priorities of that were
hoped to be achieved was consistent across the previous BSIPs and
had not changed. What was updated in the current BSIP was
additional investment, along with the current position with the
investment planned in 2021 and 2023.
- Regarding SRG, the
Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained that it had
been invaluable and included representatives from bus operators,
disability groups, County Councillors, Borough and District
Councillors and officers, who were consulted on the BSIP update.
This was part of the agreed governance of the Enhanced Partnership.
The DfT had confirmed there was no longer an expectation on
councils to update BSIPs annually. Further updates were only
required when something significant had occurred, such as
significant investment or changes to the local bus network. This
change would allow for a more detailed consultation.
- The Member added that
communication with Members was an opportunity for engagement and
Members were a good communication vehicle. The Assistant Director
for Strategic Transport agreed and explained where individual
changes to bus route were made all individual relevant members were
contacted and encouraged to promote the changes locally. There had
been member development seminars on BSIP. The Director for Highways
and Transport added that corporate colleagues were expected to be
worked with to produce a communications plan that cut across a lot
of the bus services. There would be an opportunity in this to
ensure more was done to engage members and to reference how members
were provided with opportunity to promote the bus services and
changes around it.
- A Member asked what
the challenges were with the Enhanced Partnership arrangements and
if the governance and stakeholder feedback mechanisms were working
well. The Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained that
since the partnership started in November 2022, it had been
effective in making key decisions, which were channelled through
the Enhanced Partnership Board, such as the Surrey link card. It
had also supported the expansion of DDRT and the programme for bus
priority measures. The board looked less at performance against the
BSIP, and the targets set, which was the responsibility of the
Council officers who then reported it back to the DfT. The SRG had
broad representation but could be more representative. Work was
underway with the Surrey Minority Ethnic Forum to encourage other
groups to work with them. Work was being done with colleagues in
the Customer and Communities directorate to try to increase young
people’s engagement and give them a voice on the SRG. In
terms of how the governance was framed going forward, the
regulation of board and SRG meetings to three a year was being
proposed. SRG meetings were likely to take place in January, June,
and September, with at least one in the evening to encourage
greater uptake. Board meetings would follow one month on from the
respective SRG meeting. The performance of the Enhance Partnership
Board and SRG meetings would like to be focussed on more, along
with the achievements the Council and partners were delivering
against the BSIP targets. In summary, there was more that could be
done, but the enhanced partnerships were still relatively new and
there was a want to get more people engaged, particularly younger
people and people from minority groups.
- In reference to the
recommendations from the Bus User Group, a Member asked if there
was a list of bus stops where changes would be made, such having
the curbs look at and what the deadline/target was to make the
changes. The Member also asked if there was a timeline for
introducing audio announcements for bus stops. The Assistant
Director for Strategic Transport explained that the Strategic
Transport Team could pull together a list. Regarding audible
announcements at bus stops, it was an initiative within the overall
enhanced partnership scheme. It was currently not funded but would
remain on the agenda. The Director for Highways and Transport added
that there were regulation changes to the information provision on
buses. There was a requirement for bus operators to provide
facilities for announcing bus stops, which was to be introduced
over the next two years, but it was subject to the age of the
bus.
- A Member asked how
likely it was that the Capital and revenue request totalling
£45.2m capital and £30.1m revenue, submitted in 2021
would be met by government. In
addition, the Member asked if this was assumed to be unlikely, what
element of the BSIP would be prioritised. The Assistant Director
for Strategic Transport explained that there was no guarantee that
funding would be made available from government. A case would
continue to be made to government for investment in Surrey, which
would be supported by the Council’s track record on delivery.
Surrey was benefiting from funding from the Zero Emission Bus
Regional Areas (ZEBRA) 2 scheme for two SMEs, which would see the
introduction of 19 electric buses. Focus would need to be in the
bus priority measures in the agreed areas, where bus patronage
would be grown, more zero emission buses introduced, more real time
information, expansion of DDRT and a maintained support for the
Surrey Link Card.
- A Member asked what
the impact of the end of the National Bus Fare Cap in November 2024
would be. The Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained
that the DfT data showed over 90% of all journeys outside of London
were made using the £2 Fare cap. There were some issues with
the Fare Cap with passengers making regular shorter journeys not
getting as good a deal from the Fare Cap as people travelling less
frequently and making longer trips. The government could allow the
Fare Cap to end and return to operator set pricing models. Local
transport authorities could be asked to fill the gap in funding to
maintain the £2 Fare Cap. This would require additional
funding which was not in the budget. Other ticketing offers could
be reviewed nationally such as season tickets, other discounts, and
group travel options. The government could also decide to maintain
the £2 Fare Cap or move to what was proposed in 2023, to
increase the Fare Cap to £2.50. It was hoped sufficient
notice would be provided to local transport authorities in what
decision the government makes regarding the Fare Cap, to allow for
planning a response.
- The Member asked if
school transport should be considered as part of the bus policy.
The Assistant Director for Strategic Transport explained that the
Council already supported several local bus services, which were
either specific for school transport or with local bus services
going past schools, both supporting pupils that were entitled to
support and those who were not.
- A Member asked for an
update on the development of the real time passenger information
(RTPI) system and whether there were any plans for this to be
accessed on a platform such as an app. The Assistant Director for
Strategic Transport explained that more real time information was
being installed in Surrey. Roughly 500 RTPI were installed on
streets, bus station or key destinations, which would be increased
by another 100 over the next two years. From May 2024, Stagecoach
would be able to send messages to roadside displays to advise bus
passengers of any cancellations. This facility could then be made
available to other operators later in 2024.There was information on
the council website, and most bus operators had apps to see what
was happening on services in real time.
- A Member asked about
the impact of hydrogen buses to help deliver the BSIP, particularly
regarding the cost of operation and efficiency. The Assistant
Director for Strategic Transport explained there was 34 Council
funded hydrogen fuel cell buses, which would be in service by the
end of 2024. There were 43 hydrogen fuel cell buses that were
coming into Surrey, Kent, and West Sussex, funded by the relevant
councils, metro bus, Gatwick airport and government funding. The
Council’s ZEBRA 2 bid would see 19 electric buses coming to
Surrey, in partnership with two SMEs, Falcon and White Bus. These
busses would be new and a better experience for
customers.
Actions:
- Strategic Transport
team to provide a list of improvements that had been made to bus
stops over the past 6 to 12 months, and planned improvements for
the next 2 years.
- Strategic Transport
team to share more detail on the roll out of the recent regulation
changes, in terms of information provision (e.g. bus operators to
announce bus stops on the buses)
- Assistant Director
for Strategic Transport to provide a summary of what was available
in terms of providing real time passenger information.
Resolved:
That
the Communities Environment and Highways Select
Committee:
- Welcomes
the comprehensive update and notes the requirement for the County
Council to complete and submit the updated BSIP to DfT by 12 June
or otherwise risk a delay in the release or the potential loss of
the second instalment of £3.9m of BSIP Phase 2
funding.
- Welcomes the priority that is being given by the Council to Bus
Services which are vital to delivering
greener futures objectives and to improving outcomes for residents
through faster, more reliable, and cheaper public transport and
continues to encourage the council to keep investing in and
prioritising these services.
- Encourages better engagement with members on Bus Service changes
and improvements to enable them to
promote services to residents and asks that this be factored into
wider work to develop a Communications plan.