The Committee received a report
of the Road Safety and Sustainable School Travel Team of an updated
version of the Surrey RoadSafe Vision Zero Road Strategy, which had
been amended following feedback from a ten-week public
consultation.
Witnesses:
Matt Furniss, Cabinet Member
for Highways, Transport and Economic
?Growth.
Paul Millen, Strategic
Transport Group Manager.
Lucy Monie, Director of
Highways and Transport.
Ducan Knox, Road Safety and
Sustainable School Travel Manager.
Rebecca Harrison, Safer Travel
Team Leader.
Due to a
member of the public arriving late to ask their supplemental
question, the discussion briefly shifted to Agenda Item 4.
Following this short discussion, the Committee returned to Agenda
Item 5.
Key
points made in the discussion:
- A Member asked how
the Vision Zero Road Safety Strategy changed because of the public
consultation. The Strategic Transport Group Manager hoped that
there would be more support for the 20-mph strategy. The public had
expressed preferences for where they wanted the 20-mph limit to be
implemented. The Strategic Transport Group committed to provide
additional information on how consultations with local people would
be conducted.
- A Member asked if the
Vision Zero Road Safety Strategy should be reviewed considering the
percentage of respondents expressing a lack of confidence that it
would lead to improvements in road safety. The Strategic Transport
Group Manager replied that respondents’ lack of confidence in
the Strategy related to road maintenance. Significant work was underway to make
improvements.
- A Member asked if key
performance indicators would be developed to measure progress in
achieving the strategy’s goal. The Strategic Transport Group
Manager said that the strategy included a delivery plan and
framework. This would be reviewed by the Road Safety Governance
Board (RSGB). There was no established threshold for a high level
of compliance with speed limits. However, intervention was
prioritised at sites with the most significant speed and casualty
issues.
- A Member asked if
reducing serious injuries and deaths by 2035 was the primary
measure of success and what the RSGB’s relationship was to
Surrey County Council and this Committee. The Strategic Transport
Group Manager said that the data is arranged by road user groups.
The relationship between the RSGB and the Committee is determined
by the respective Cabinet Member, and the activities of both are
subject to scrutiny by this Committee.
- A Member asked about
the number of speed surveys conducted and whether a high level of
compliance could be measured for most of them. The Strategic
Transport Group Manager said that data was collected from measuring
thousands of sites. The sites requiring the most attention were
identified in collaboration with local boroughs and districts.
Further data was gathered from telematics devices used by road
users.
- A Member said that
participants in the public consultation were dissatisfied with
measures to ensure driver compliance with speed limits and
concerned about the new approach to implementing 20 mph speed
limits. However, the consultation results indicated that only 4% of
respondents experienced confusion or misunderstanding.
- A Member asked
whether the issue surrounding public consultation stemmed from
ineffective communication or fundamental disagreement with the
proposed strategy. The Strategic Transport Group Manager said that
there was a lack of understanding to a degree. Some individuals
indicated opposition but also supported specific areas of the
policy. The Cabinet Member for Highways, Transport and Economic
Growth said that consultations were not the best way to communicate
and expressed the need to reevaluate the approach.
- The Chair said that
42% of respondents felt either unconfident or very unconfident
about the likelihood of improving road safety. Respondents’
main concern was that funding for road maintenance would be more
effective in impacting on road safety.
- The Chair asked if
road maintenance should be prioritized in the strategy. In reply,
the Strategic Transport Group Manager acknowledged that road
maintenance was important; however, it should not overshadow the
main objectives of the strategy. The Director of Highways and
Transport said that there was already a separate strategy for
highway maintenance that prioritized user safety.
- A Member asked if
there was any evidence linking road conditions to serious injuries
and fatalities. In reply, the Strategic Transport Group Manager
said there is a lack of data on the issue, but police records
include information about the causes of incidents.
- A Member asked how
many reduced speed limits would need to be established to reach the
safe road targets of the strategy and what the associated costs
would be. The Strategic Transport Group Manager said that this was
challenging to identify. Early data indicated that reducing 60 mph
speed limits as part of the Rural Speed Limit Programme had been
effective.
- The Chairman said
that a consistent majority of respondents in social media polls
opposed 20 mph speed limits in residential areas, town centres, and
near schools.
- The Chairman asked
about the demographics of the participants. The Strategic Transport
Group Manager said they do not have this data.
- A Member asked for
elaboration on proposed governing structures. The Strategic
Transport Group Manager said that a governance board was being set
up among the strategy’s decision makers. The board would make
major investment decisions using money from the Road Safe
Partnership. Also a strategy and delivery group would develop plans
for the governance board.
- A Member remarked
that both road markings and potholes were critical issues. The
Cabinet Member stated that significant investment had been made in
road markings.
- A Member asked for
clarification of self-enforcing speed limits. The Strategic
Transport Group Manager said that this indicated where drivers
voluntarily choose speeds that complied with the posted speed limit
based on a road's physical characteristics without the need for
police enforcement. This was accomplished through road width
visibility, the presence of parked vehicles, and traffic calming
measures.
- A Member said that
the Council had an established process for setting local speed
limits, allowing residents to submit online requests for
reductions. Local councillors were then consulted to determine
whether to conduct a speed assessment. However, Annex 5 indicated
that feasibility work and speed studies were conducted first,
followed by a formal engagement plan with local Councillors. This
approach raised concerns about the financial feasibility of
achieving the goals from the outset.
- A Member asked
whether local Councillor involvement could occur earlier than
proposed in Annex 5. The Strategic Transport Group Manager said
that local Councillors could contribute their local allocation to
the feasibility study. If a Councillor did not want to proceed,
they would not have to secure a locally funded scheme.
- A Member asked the
reason for using the 85th percentile in speed assessments and how
to address situations where there is a significant difference
between the mean speed and the 85th percentile. The Strategic
Transport Group Manager said that the 85th percentile represented
the speed above which the fastest 15% of vehicles travelled. This
metric, along with the mean speed, helped determine the appropriate
type and priority of intervention. An explanation and examples
could be added to the website for the public about speed
measurements.
- The Chairman asked
about the level of support required to approve a 20 mph scheme. The
Strategic Transport Group Manager said that defining the exact
level of support required was unhelpful, as anyone could contribute
to the consultation process.
- A Member asked about
local engagement with Districts and Boroughs and whether their
involvement could be included. The Strategic Transport Group
Manager would gather the views of the Districts and Boroughs and
disseminate information through their media channels as part of the
consultation process.
- A Member asked who
would conduct the public consultations and whether an officer would
be assigned to oversee them. The Strategic Transport Group Manager
said that when a local Councillor aimed to promote a scheme, the
Highways Engagement and Commissioning Team would act on behalf of
that Councillor.
- A Member asked who
the members of the Road Safety Working Group (RSWG) were, how
Councillors could improve collaboration with them, and how to
obtain more information about the outcomes of their informal
meetings. The Strategic Transport Group Manager said that the RSWG
was part of the Road Safety Team, which reviewed maps to identify
collision hotspots and routes and welcomed public concerns about
specific sites. The RSWG collaborated with the police to visit
locations and commission speed surveys. When issues were
identified, solutions were proposed and implemented. Meeting
minutes could be shared and the RSWG welcomed site suggestions from
members.
- A Member asked how
the Council determined which roads were appropriate for the 20 mph
schemes and how many roads would need speed limit reductions to
meet this strategy’s target. The Strategic Transport Group
Manager said that the policy focused on areas outside schools,
residential neighbourhoods, and town centres. It was up to the
local community to identify which roads were relevant.
- A Member asked how
the RSWG’s views regarding the 20 mph limit were incorporated
into the speed management planning process, where the speed
management plans were published and whether Councillors could
access them. The Strategic Transport Group Manager said that
RSWG’s agenda featured speed management plans. While the data
was not published, they could provide a redacted snapshot of the
sites requiring the most attention and actions for those
locations.
- A Member asked if any
concerns from Councillors about various sites could be communicated
to the Strategic Transport Group Manager for review. The Strategic
Transport Group Manager said that they could do this.
- A Member asked where
the RSWG gets its data. In reply, the
Strategic Transport Group Manager said that a national system
collected data on injuries resulting from traffic collisions. The
RSWG also considered other data sources, such as non-injury
collisions and information submitted by individuals.
- A Member asked
whether sufficient funding existed to implement the strategy, what
solutions are available if it did not, and if Councillors could
access central funds beyond the ITS scheme. The Strategic Transport
Group Manager said that by the end of the financial year, the
majority of the £3 million allocated for safety outside
schools went towards 29 initiatives along with supporting traffic
calming measures, safe walking routes to school, and speed limit
enforcement. Additionally, funding would be directed towards speed
management and road safety capital schemes. There was a
£500,000 budget within the capital pipeline for capital
schemes, totalling £2.5 million over five years.
- A Member asked how
the amount of £2.5 million was determined, whether this was
appropriate, and when it would be reviewed. The Director of
Highways and Transport said that this amount was a starting point.
As with all capital budgets, it would be reviewed in due time. At
this early stage, it was unclear whether this amount was
appropriate.
- A Member asked about
the basis of the £2.5 million and the number of other routes
that posed high or similar risks to the A25 between Dorking and
Reigate that required funding, and whether it was possible to
request financial support from Central Government. The Cabinet
Member said that £2.5 million was designated solely for
implementing the 20 mph strategy. This was a suggestion rather than
a commitment. The review of the capital budget was ongoing.
Furthermore, the £500,000 was designated for 20 mph zones and
road safety initiatives. This represented the Council’s
contribution, with additional funding available for partners. The
Strategic Transport Group Manager said that £1.8 million was
allocated between Dorking and Reigate from central Government, as
this route had ranked among the worst nationally. No additional
qualifying roads in Surrey had been identified for further
funding.
- A Member asked if the
strategy fully aligned with the Department for Transport (DfT)
Circular of March 2024, about variable speed limits. The Strategic
Transport Group Manager said that Surrey’s approach aligned
to the DfT circular. Although variable speed limits exist in
Surrey, they did not significantly impact traffic, and the
maintenance involved did not justify such a scheme.
- A Member asked a
supplementary question regarding the impact of a new government on
this policy area. The Strategic Transport Group Manager said that
it is too early to tell what will happen with any new
government.
- A Member asked about
the principles outlined in the report regarding the implementation
of a 20 mph speed limit and supplying additional evidence toward
the process. The Strategic Transport Group Manager confirmed the
importance of evidence and if the measures did not work further
actions could be taken.
- A Member asked which
organisation would make the greatest impact in achieving this
strategy. The Strategic Transport Group Manager noted that all
organizations had worked together and that it was impossible to
determine if one was more important than another.
Decision:
RESOLVED, that the Communities
Environment and Highways Select Committee,
1.
Notes the main changes were additional emphasis on
ensuring local people are consulted on proposals and on the need
for 20 mph speed limits to be self-enforcing;
2.
Notes the public response to the consultation
revealed a lack of confidence that the strategy would improve road
safety in Surrey, with resident feedback suggesting road condition
and potholes had a greater impact on road safety;
3.
Notes there was a mixed response on the proposals
for a new approach to 20 mph speed limits which reflected both
disagreement to the policy but also a misunderstanding of how the
policy would be implemented;
4.
Supports the Vision Zero Roadsafe Strategy in broad
terms and the consultative approach that is being taken but notes
the public concern about whether the impact of this strategy will
succeed and its likelihood of meeting the target to reduce KSIs by
50% by 2035 (758 to 375), and notes that this will be addressed in
future communications and engagement plans to better explain the
policy to the public;
5.
Expresses concern at the consultation results
specifically related to speed limits and lack of clear
message/result and supports future work to improve consultation
methodologies;
6.
Recommends more detailed targets are produced to
monitor progress and ensure impact including a delivery plan with
key deliverables aimed at reducing deaths and KPIs;
7.
Recommends appropriate prioritisation of funding and
sufficient resources to deliver the strategy;
8.
Recommends that supporting communication and
outreach addresses the public perception (raised in the public
consultation) that fixing potholes and improving roads would have a
greater impact on road safety and highlights the Council’s
highways improvement programme;
9.
Recommends revisions to the strategy to address the
comments raised by the Committee in discussion to clarify the role
of the local Councillor in 20?mph scheme proposals and the process
for local engagement (including parish council involvement) and to
amend annex 5 accordingly, which should clarify that a pragmatic
and flexible approach can be taken to local
consultation.
Actions/requests for further information:
None.
Meeting was
recessed from 12:06 p.m. to 12:17 p.m.