Witnesses:
Clare Curran, Cabinet Member
for Children, Families and Lifelong Learning
Patricia Denney, Director
– Quality and Performance
Suzanne Smith, Director of
Commissioning – Transformation
Gerry Hughes, Assistant
Director – Business Support & H2STA
Chris McShee, Travel and
Assessment Team Manager - Stakeholder
Liaison
Matthew Winnett, Travel and
Assessment Team Manager – Transport Delivery
Matt Marsden, Strategic Finance
Business Partner – Strategy & Innovation
Key
points of discussion:
- The Chair said that,
while huge progress had been made and the team should be proud of
the improvements, challenges remained in providing a clear roadmap
for families from application for a school to delivery of
transport, and in improving collaboration among responsible teams.
The issue of collaboration has significant implications and needs
to be prioritised for attention. Parents may unwittingly choose a
school, or have a school identified for them, which entails a very
long journey for their children. They noted that in the
2023–2024 fiscal year, £65 million had been spent,
including a £7.4 million overspend and
£45 million on taxis alone. Rising costs highlighted the
need to place children in suitable schools, based on their needs
and locality.
- A Member asked about
how the Council compared to neighbouring councils regarding
transport assistance. In reply, the Travel and Assessment Team
Manager - Stakeholder Liaison said that it was important to focus
on different cohorts. They noted that understanding the information
and that of different authorities was as necessary to understand
how these factors varied across the counties. The Chair said that
it would be useful to have a breakdown of the data in relation to
the population size and that of each cohort, allowing the Committee
to better understand the proportionality involved.
- A Member asked why
the decision to disallow the transport of children under five years
old was enforced without clear communication to families prior to
finalising placements, and what percentage of appeals from families
with children under five had been successful. The Assistant
Director – Business Support & H2STA said that the
Council's policy stated children under five were ineligible for
transport, though exceptions had become common over the past two
years. Previous communications led to misunderstandings, as
families were informed they might receive transport. Ultimately, 28
of 59 appeals were approved, while 31 were declined.
- The Chair said that
when implementing online services, there should be consideration of
the specific circumstances of parents and carers in the event they
cannot use online services. The Assistant Director replied that
there were ongoing efforts to enhance the automation of forms and
to educate colleagues about possible improvements to the service.
Additionally, much work had been put into the development of
easy-read guides for parents, which highlighted the importance of
both parents’ understanding and effective communication with
the team.
- A Member asked if the
support service would participate in the customer transformation
programme. The Assistant Director said the support service was very
involved and participating.
- A Member asked about
the approach and policy concerning dual placements, the policy for
alternative provision (AP) and education outside of school, and the
exceptional circumstances applicable to those in post-16 education.
In reply, the Transport Delivery Team Manager – Transport
Delivery said that the policy stated that the Council assessed
travel assistance eligibility based on the schools named in the
EHCP. For educational locations other than schools, while the law
did not impose a duty on the council to provide travel assistance,
the Council would consider individual circumstances. The Travel and
Assessment Team Manager - Stakeholder Liaison added that the
Council had started transitioning from contracted transport to a
travel allowance. The Service had developed guidance in
collaboration with Family Voice Surrey to help families understand
the requirements for qualifying for transport, with much work done
over the past 18 months on the communications plan.
- A Member asked
whether Surrey County Council had conducted a cost analysis on
offering more than 45p per mile to encourage parents to drive their
children to school. In reply, the Assistant Director said that a
cost analysis had been conducted, which led to the creation of a
personal travel budget scheme structured in three tiers, with the
first tier reimbursing 45p per mile.
- A Member asked what
other provisions had been looked at. In reply, the Assistant
Director said that they considered several other kinds of
provisions, and had worked with Freedom to Travel, Surrey County
Council’s community transport providers, school bus fleets,
and individual providers to improve the viability and feasibility
of picking up local children.
- A Member asked to be
reassured that the payment processing would be streamlined. In
reply, the Assistant Director said the Finance Team had adjusted
its processes to resolve past issues. They were exploring
automating parts of the payment process to improve customer service
and considering allowing families to claim mileage. They also
mentioned clawback, as payments were made in arrears due to some
children being absent from school while receiving an independent
travel allowance. If a child was not expected to attend school,
Surrey County Council did not clawback those days. This policy was
based on the number of days the child was expected to be in school,
and in-service days would be deducted.
- A Member asked that
the difference between and ‘independent travel
allowance’ and ‘personal travel budget’ be
explained. In reply, the Assistant Director said that the term
‘independent travel allowance’ was out of date and had
contributed to confusion and they would transition away from
‘independent travel allowance’, with all expenses being
referred to as a ‘personal travel budget’.
- The Chair asked how
and why other councils neighbouring Surrey County manage to pay
considerably more. The Chair also asked for some research into this
and to ensure SCC was willing to pay what it costs to incentivise.
In reply, they said that further analysis was needed to understand
what other councils were doing in this area.
- A Member asked about
the proportion of safeguarding incidents that were responded to
within 24 hours and whether there had been a reduction in
complaints since a section on service standards was added to the
parent guide. In reply, the Assistant Director said all
safeguarding concerns would be addressed within 24 hours, although
investigations might take longer. They also reported that no
complaints had been received in June. The Chair asked if they had
any success in improving those timescales. The Travel and
Assessment Team Manager - Stakeholder Liaison said that more data
would be needed.
- A Member asked about
the short- and medium-term implications of the
£10.3 million budget overspend for 2023–2024 and
the current £7.4 million overspend for 2024–2025,
which included an additional risk of £2.5 million. The
Travel and Assessment Team Manager - Stakeholder Liaison said that
the service had several savings targets for the year as part of its
medium-term financial plan and was on track to achieve efficiencies
of £2.6 million. Regarding expenditures, there had been
a noticeable increase. Additionally, they explained that a process
known as hidden bidding was being utilised within their dynamic
purchasing system (DPS) to help reduce costs. A Member said that
they were concerned about a nearly £10 million overspend
for the current year, noting that a similar overspend had occurred
the previous year. This raised questions about the accuracy of the
budgeting forecasts. The Cabinet Member said that one consequence
of last year's budget overspending was a substantial increase in
the Home-to-School Transport budget, which had been approved in
February 2023 as part of the overall budget for the
directorate and indicated that the Council made efforts to
appropriately increase this year’s Home-to-School Transport
allocation. The Strategic Finance Business Partner - Strategy &
Innovation said much work had been completed on the forecasting
model to support the school transport team.
- A Member asked if the
backlog of EHCPs had been considered for projections related to
Home-to-School Transport budgeting. In reply, the Strategic Finance
Business Partner said that they had worked closely with the SEND
team regarding their forward trajectories regarding all
EHCPs.
- A Member asked how
the cost increases from the previous year and the current year
compared with those of other councils, whether data on unit costs
was available, and how much of the budget increases for both years
could be attributed to the current shortfall in special needs and
alternative provision. In reply, the Cabinet Minister said that the
forecast from the SEND AP Capital programme aimed to increase
specialist school places in the county to just under 6,000.
However, the Committee should consider that Surrey County Council
currently had over 15,000 children and young people with EHCPs, and
not all would need a specialist school. The Council wanted children
in Surrey to be educated close to home and within their own
communities, hoping many could be educated in mainstream
environments. Although the Council had an ambitious programme to
build and maintain specialist accommodations, it recognised it
would not fully meet the demand for specialist schools. Even with
the addition of four new free schools, there would still be
children and young people whose needs the Council could not
meet.
- A Member said that
Table 1 of the report outlined the costs of not addressing the
shortfall. The report also described the changes in the scope of
the SEND Capital Programme. It was thought that the Council would
understand the costs both before and after the change in scope, as
the same data was utilised and that it would be beneficial to
understand the projected costs after the change was implemented, to
assess any financial benefits for the Council and children, and to
compare these factors with neighbouring councils. The Strategic
Finance Business Partner said that, in terms of the comparison with
neighbouring councils, one comparison could be made with Kent
County Council and Surrey County Council, which considering updated
figures, are comparable at £9,200 per child.
- The Chair asked if
the report had accounted for the decisions made because of the SEND
Capital Programme or if it had been prepared prior to those
decisions. In reply, the Strategic Finance Business Partner said
forecasting included an allowance for improvement in the number of
children transported due to increased efficiency within Surrey,
though the details of how this would work had not been explored.
The Chair said that the issue was understanding the strength of
that assumption.
- The Chair asked if
the projected costs for Home-to-School Transport had considered all
the data related to the SEND Capital Programme. In reply, the
Strategic Finance Business Partner said it had not been considered
in terms of the financial forecast. They said that work was being
started to examine SEND trajectories by provision type. They hoped
this would provide a better understanding to update their financial
projections. The Director of Commissioning for Transformation said
that part of the work started by the Forecasting Methodology Task
and Finish Group involved studying various scenarios and
methodologies to make certain the development of the best
forecasting models. They noted that this subject could be included
among the other topics being considered by the Forecasting
Methodology Task and Finish Group.
- A Member asked what
is meant by the reference to ‘continued new routes’ in
paragraph 32 of the report. In reply, the Cabinet Member said that
one example illustrating the meaning was the establishment of two
new routes that had an annual cost of approximately
£40–50,000 per child but would not amount to the
collective savings in the amount of £40–50,000 for one
route. In reply, the Travel and Assessment Team Manager -
Stakeholder Liaison said that the route was determined by the
destination, noting that the Council had a statutory duty to
provide travel assistance to eligible children. They clarified that
if children needed to be transported to a farther location but were
eligible for transport, the Council had to arrange taxi services,
which would also be classified as a solo route.
- A Member asked about
the type of data that would be analysed concerning paragraph 32 of
the report, which said ‘work continues to analyse the data to
get to a clear understanding of this position.’ In reply, the
Travel and Assessment Team Manager - Stakeholder Liaison said that
an assumption had been made based on the type of placement data.
They further asked about the allocation of places and if this
considers factors of availability, distance, cost, and other such
factors. In reply, the Chair said that it was very clear the first
obligation of the local authority is to meet the needs of the child
as stated in the EHCP. The Chair added there were many different
issues to consider regarding the topic of the question. They
believed it would be beneficial for the Service to return to the
Committee later to address concerns about priority and obligation
and whether these factors were considered in the process. The
Chair, concluding, said that they would take that question and
consider it for the next topic.
- A Member asked about
the expected impact of the new Labour Government's decision to
impose VAT on independent school fees on Home-to-School Transport,
and whether this change would lead to an increase in transfers to
state schools. In reply, the Travel and Assessment Team Manager -
Stakeholder Liaison said that the Service had not made any analysis
regarding this decision.
RESOLVED, the Children, Families,
Lifelong Learning and Culture Select Committee
recommends:
- The Surrey School
Travel and Assessment Team (SSTAT) prioritises communications to
parents and carers when changes to policy and practice are
finalised and ensures that these communications are widely shared
in advance of the change being implemented.
- In order to further
improve communication:
- The SEND and
Admissions team take the transport implications of a placement into
account, and pro-actively discuss it with families prior to a
placement being discussed, agreed and named in a plan, including
for those Children and Young People outside of statutory school
age;
- The updated parent
guide to travel assistance—developed in collaboration with
Family Voice Surrey—is given to parents when an EHCP
application is made and is included in the Key Stage Transfer
paperwork;
- SSTAT makes it clear
to families, before the next academic year’s applications,
what extenuating circumstances will be considered for Children and
Young People under?5 and post?16;
- As Family Voice
suggests, SSTAT provides regular engagement sessions/surgeries that
parents and carers can book onto throughout the summer.
- The forecasting of
demand and the budget for Home to School Transport takes account of
the forecast demand for SEND school placements.
- SSTAT undertake a
cost benefit analysis to identify whether a higher standard
Independent Travel Allowance would incentivise uptake, what the
implications for parents and carers would be, and what Surrey can
learn from other local authorities who have implemented this
strategy.
- In order to come up
with potentially innovative solutions, SSTAT looks further at what
other local authorities are doing to manage home to school
transport costs.
Actions/requests for further information:
Travel & Assessment Team
Manager - Stakeholder Liaison: To
share benchmarking data to understand how the overall figure of 7%
qualifying for H2STA compares to neighbouring councils and include
per capita rates.