To receive a report by the Chief Fire Officer
which presents the draft Community Risk Management Plan (CRMP) for
2025–2030.
Minutes:
WITNESSES
Kevin Deanus, Cabinet
Member for Fire and Rescue, and Resilience
Dan Quin, Executive
Director of Community Protection and Emergencies (Chief Fire
Officer)
Sally Wilson,
Assistant Chief Fire Officer
Lee Spencer-Smith,
Area Commander responsible for Protection and the Community Risk
Management Plan
Sophie Whitfield,
Senior Communications Manager for CRMP
KEY
LINES OF DISCUSSION
A Member asked about
the changes at Banstead Fire Station and Camberley Fire Station, as
well as details on the feedback received from the council's
consultation with the local areas regarding these changes. The
Chief Fire Officer said that Banstead had been identified as a
low-risk area. He emphasised that all proposals were based on the
Community Risk Profile (CRP) which is annually updated, and is an
externally verified risk analyses.
A Member asked about
emerging risks to monitor and analyse heading into 2025 and beyond.
The Chief Fire Officer outlined three key risks in Surrey's CRP:
road (the leading cause of fatalities), water-related incidents,
and wildfires. He emphasised prevention, tailored responses, and
learning from nationwide trends to address emerging
challenges.
A Member asked about
the chances of finding an appropriate or affordable site in the
area of Whyteleafe for a fire station. The Assistant Chief Fire
Officer said that Surrey County Council will be conducting a new
search for appropriate and affordable sites in the Whyteleafe area,
with a third party handling the review, and that a search has
already been undertaken previously. If no appropriate and
affordable site is found, the crew and fire engine will move to
Godstone Fire Station. Works to develop Godstone Fire Station will
continue during this time. The outcome of the search remains
uncertain as it has not taken place yet.
A Member asked why
any subsequent reviews has or will not included Banstead and the
surrounding areas, and whether there had been any significant
difference between Whyteleafe and Godstone, given that they were
next to each other from a Banstead perspective. The Chief Fire
Officer explained that Banstead had not been considered because the
risk analysis had not indicated a need to focus there; instead, the
Whyteleafe area had been prioritised due to findings from the CRP.
He acknowledged that while Whyteleafe and Godstone were
geographically close, the key difference is the risk level.
Godstone, being a 24/7 fire station, had often required Banstead to
respond eastward, affecting coverage in the rest of Tandridge. The
goal is to ensure timely responses in areas with higher
vulnerability. Regarding Banstead’s response time, he noted a
minimal impact, with only a 40-second difference to Reigate and
Banstead as a borough and a slight improvement in Tandridge, aiming
to balance coverage across Surrey, especially in less well-served
areas like Tandridge.
A Member asked what a
seasonal response model was, whether it was considered best
practice across the sector, what challenges were associated with
its development, and if any cost savings could be achieved from
implementing it. The Area Commander responsible for Protection and
Risk said that the seasonal response model enhanced resilience
during periods of increased demand, such as floods or wildfires, by
ensuring sufficient resources, timely crew relief, and maintaining
county-wide coverage. While not focused on cost savings, it is
expected to improve operational resilience. His Majesty's
Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Service look for
innovative practice when carrying out inspections. We feel that
this proposal meets this requirement as we believe SFRS would be
the first service in England to use this type of response
model.
A Member asked how
the coordination between SFRS and Health Partners, including South
East Coast Ambulance Service, would work. The Chief Fire Officer
said that coordination would build on existing strong relationships
with health partners, including GPs and care partners. The service
plans to continue collaborating with partners using structured
project management, clear objectives, and robust governance.
Transparent project tracking and communication will ensure smooth
coordination, with a focus on community resilience and
self-care.
A Member asked if
increased investment in resources for prevention and protection by
SFRS would reduce the need for fire and rescue operational
responses. The Assistant Chief Fire Officer said that prevention
efforts, such as targeting vulnerable communities and addressing
non-fire-related incidents like road traffic collisions and
flooding, were crucial in reducing incidents. While fire-related
incidents had decreased by about two-thirds over the past 20 years,
operational responses remained essential, and the current response
model was deemed appropriate, with continuous review to ensure it
met the needs of the community. She notes that there will always be
a need for operational response.
A Member asked if the
service was confident that it has the necessary skills and
knowledge, particularly technical expertise like fire engineers, to
address prevention needs in the built environment with the
government's emphasis on accelerated house building. The Area
Commander responsible for Protection and Risk said that the service
was working to ensure staff have the right training and skills,
particularly in protection roles. The service continuously upskills
specialists in fire safety, prevention, and response, and has
invested in training, including a £14.5 million investment in
a new training centre to meet future needs. The Chief Fire Officer
also explained how collaboration between Fire and Rescue
Service’s works in practice and gave examples of sharing
resources.