Witnesses
Mark Nuti, Cabinet Member for
Health and Wellbeing, and Public Health
Jane Bremner, Head of
Commissioning, Mental Health
Simon Brauner-Cave, Deputy
Director of Mental Health Commissioning, Surrey Heartlands,
Integrated Care System (ICS)
Damien Taylor, Community
Transformation Lead for Older Adults, Surrey and Borders NHS
Partnerships Trust (SaBP)
Negin Sarafraz-Shekary, Public
Health Principal, Cardiovascular Disease Prevention
Key points raised
during the discussion:
1.
Officers provided the Committee with a presentation
prior to the discussion, which outlined the context of the dementia
strategy; interventions and programmes of support in place to
enhance prevention and reduce risk factors; dementia diagnosis
rates; support groups; Technology Enabled Care and Homes (TECH);
support for carers; and end of life care support.
2.
The Chairman noted that several links in the report
did not work and asked for links to be re-sent to the
committee.
3.
A Member asked what was being done in Surrey around prevention
among adults with learning disabilities and how it could be
promoted in the community other than online such as on social
media. The Community Transformation Lead for Older Adults explained
that there were several accessible resources offered, particularly
around brain health, healthy eating and lifestyle. These resources
were often provided when an individual was referred into services.
If an individual had a specific specialist learning disability
health need, there was a healthy group run by the multidisciplinary
team which could offer referrals to dietetics.
4.
The Public Health Principal added that everyone from the age of 14
with a diagnosed learning disability were eligible to receive an
annual health check, providing an opportunity to identify early
risk factors around healthy eating, sexual health, alcohol etc. A
lot of work to raise awareness was happening across primary care to
increase that opportunity and ensure parents were aware. Public
Health developed two bespoke ‘making every contact
count’ courses for people and carers of people with learning
disabilities. One course was around healthy eating, and the other
course was around alcohol, to help ensure a tailored approach for
people with a learning disability.
- The Cabinet Member for Health,
Wellbeing and Public Healthhighlighted that prevention in Public
Health was about living better and healthier. Less alcohol, less
smoking and more exercise, for example, could help prevent the
onset of dementia in later life. Everyone had a responsibility to
look after themselves and be advocates to the public to improve
messaging.
- A Member raised concerns about
reaching the target audience of people in their 30s, 40s and 50s
with messages about lifestyle choices and its impact. The Member
questioned if messaging was also reaching young people who played
contact sports such as football and rugby, highlighting the
potential damage these sports could cause. The Member felt
messaging was not currently getting through to these groups.
- In addition, the Vice-Chair felt
that prevention was key, and that education around lifestyle
choices and links to dementia should occur at school-age; to make
young people aware of the impact of choices such as smoking and
alcohol, noting it could also help young people look out for signs
of dementia in family members. The Vice-Chair referred to Public
Health’s stop smoking support specifically around the 15
hundred referrals and asked if further information could be shared
with the committee in the future around how many people were
smoking in Surrey and whether they were light smokers or heavy
smokers.
- The Cabinet Member for Health,
Wellbeing and Public Health brought attention to Active Surrey
which worked with young and older people around improving physical
activity and that sport was not for everyone and was generally
about exercise, which meant different things to different people
acknowledging that the message was difficult to get across and
everyone had a responsibility in communities to promote it.
Regarding smoking, SCC had one of the lowest Public Health grants
in the country and did what could be done with this and were quite
successful. The smoking rate was dropping in general across the
country and hoped that the new legislation coming forward,
including around vapes, would help to reduce smoking rates
further.
- A Member asked what work was being
undertaken to help people to make and maintain certain lifestyle
adjustments that helped to reduce the risk of dementia, even with
Alzheimer’s risk-genes, and if it was possible to monitor if
this helped prevent dementia from progressing.
- The Member also raised that one of
the greatest risk factors predisposing certain people to
Alzheimer’s disease was age, and Surrey had a large aging
population. The Member asked what preventative steps and
developments were being undertaken to reach people earlier and what
developments were occurring within Surrey.
- The Member raised concerns around
diagnosis and specifically those that fall outside of the normal
range for diagnosis, high-functioning, intelligent people that
noticed a cognitive decline and experienced distress as a result,
but despite seeing a GP about this decline did not receive a formal
dementia diagnosis until reaching the normal level for a diagnosis.
The Member asked how this group was being supported, noting the
distress it could cause for the individual and families.
- The Public Health Principal
explained that education and reaching out needed to start from an
early age with children as risk factors manifested across a life
course. The healthy school approach in Surrey provided that
opportunity for conversations around healthy lifestyle approaches,
but more could always be done. Public Health had several campaigns
to raise awareness of risk factors, such as communication around
smoking cessation which had been successful, and the ‘know
your numbers’ campaign which raised awareness of blood
pressure risks. Interventions were in place to reduce the risk of
dementia’s risk factors, especially vascular dementia, such
as the NHS Health Check, targeted at people from the age of 40 to
identify those with high blood pressure, atrial fibrillation and
high cholesterol to identify these conditions at an earlier stage.
There was a collaborative group which brought together alcohol and
drug misuse as a partnership and worked with key stakeholders to
raise awareness. Public Health was also working on prevention and
raising awareness of excessive alcohol intake and for example,
using the Making Every Contact Count programme and sharing
intelligence to improve understanding of those more at risk and how
to reach out to communities that were less likely to engage well.
Regarding upcoming interventions, Public Health was working towards
having a healthy aging programme in place, in collaboration with
adult social care and the NHS. NHS Places had several initiatives
around frailty, and there was an opportunity to ensure a
coordinated approach to healthy aging that captures reducing risks,
and that people on a dementia pathway had support in place. Public
Health monitored the effectiveness of its interventions, but a
clinical research and trial setting on intervention would be
required to assess if Public Health’s interventions were
specifically reducing the risk of dementia. Several clinical trials
were happening nationally to improve understanding.
- Regarding those experiencing
distress from a mental health perspective, the Community
Transformation Lead for Older Adults explained that Surrey and
Borders Partnership NHS Trust (SaBP) would suggest interventions
through primary care talking therapies. Research conveyed that
outcomes for older adults, therapeutically, were better in those
areas. As it progressed, SaBP would undertake secondary services
memory assessments, if required. Distress for carers could often be
worse at times, so it was important to take a holistic ‘Think
Family’ approach to ensure all needs were being met.
- The Deputy Director of Mental Health
Commissioning added that Surrey Heartlands ICS had started
discussions with their talking therapy providers around ensuring
people that had dementia risk factors such as depression, were in a
talking therapy service, that work was done to explore physical
activity opportunities more formally as part of the offer. This was
being done in partnership with Active Surrey to help make a real
difference. The Member raised concern that this was not currently
being put into practice and asked how we spread the word that this
was a possibility. The Deputy Director of Mental Health
Commissioning clarified that the work he described had just begun
as part of the recommissioning of the talking therapy services and
agreed that more could be done in relation to physical activity and
talking therapies and within their Primary Care Network (PCN) level
support and GP Integrated Mental Health Service (GPimhs) and is
where efforts would be focused going forward.
- The Chairman asked about
comorbidities such as heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes
and severe arthritis which could lead to a worsened state of
dementia. The Chairman asked what actions were being taken in those
areas to recognise dementia could be an outcome and to help manage
and prevent this. The Public Health Principal explained that
management and detection of hypertension, cholesterol, atrial
fibrillation and diabetes were key targets in the NHS long term
plan. Dementia had been mentioned in Surrey Heartland’s
clinical strategy and extensive work with the Clinical
Cardiovascular Group was undertaken which looked at reducing and
improving the management and detection of hypertension, diabetes,
and cholesterol. Work was also done with colleagues in primary care
to address this. There was a national target in hypertension
detection and management of 80% for those eligible to be treated.
Surrey was meeting or close to meeting the national target of 80%
for treating the elderly population aged 60 and above which was
encouraging. Work was in progress to improve management of
cholesterol and atrial fibrillation. Previously, there had been
simple interventions such as a pulse check at flu vaccination
clinics to help identify high dementia risk populations and raise
awareness, which was covered in the NHS long-term plan. Public
Health raised awareness about those risk factors through their
campaigns and collaborative work around the data to ensure it is
correctly targeted and looking at reducing inequalities especially
looking at more deprived and key neighbourhood areas to ensure that
targeted interventions were in place.
- A Member asked about what assistive
devices were being provided for people with dementia to use at home
that prevent falls, for example, such as Technology Enabled Care
(TEC). The Head of Commissioning for Mental Health explained that
community equipment services provided devices such as grab bars.
Motion sensors were well-utilised and helped to identify high-use
areas in the home. working with partners at Mole Valley Life, a
risk assessment could be offered in the homes to reduce trip
hazards, and responder services could visit the home and ensure
modifications could occur. Other technology included smart plugs,
smart video ring doorbells and assistive technology such as
voice-controlled reminders for example, which supported those
living with dementia at home.
- The Member asked what TEC was being
developed that aligned with AI and whether there were any
innovative technologies being developed. The Head of Commissioning
for Mental Health explained technology partners would know more
detail of how TEC worked with AI. AI was utilised by some of their
providers to contact individuals and send reminders, such as when
to take medication, and that some level was built into new
technologies so consideration of how to maximise this so people
could achieve what they want to get out of it, like smart home TEC
for example.. It was mentioned that the technology strategy was in
development, due to go to Cabinet in
2025 and would be a good source of information.
- A Member raised that
safety concerns increased as age and dementia progressed and asked
what the data conveyed about people living in Surrey with dementia
that are monitored and do we have any corresponding statistics in
terms of safety issues, what was being done to ensure that the
technology linked with the TEC, informed on what worked, what was
being trialled and what the overall picture was. The Head of
Commissioning for Mental Health outlined that it was perhaps not
known what the dementia insights were specifically around
technology, as the technology was focused on the individual’s
circumstances and personal needs. Professional assessments and
judgement was relied on to identify the technology best for the
individual on a case by case basis There were technologies to raise
an alarm, monitor movement and to prompt and remind. Some
technology used images of family members and carers to remind
individuals of daily tasks which was a newer inovative approach,
and whilst not yet commonly available, was part of the strategic
forward planning with regards to TECH.
- The Member asked if they considered
there to be any risk of resistance
arising from the public around that technology approach. The Head
of Commissioning for Mental Health noted that perhaps different
people would feel differently about the approaches, and it was
difficult to know. Opportunities to try out the technology could be
a good idea initially and could help reduce any fear around
it.
- A Member referred to the
‘Connect to Support Surrey’ website, noting it had a
range of organisations listed that offered support and was
impressive and asked if there were any plans to develop the
strategy or develop this support for families within Surrey. The
Head of Commissioning for Mental Health explained that mapping and
updating of all their support groups were updated regularly and
enhancing that from work arising from their health place
partnerships colleagues was kept up to date. Work was ongoing
across the system.
- The Vice-Chair raised the importance
of recognising how prevalent dementia was in society, and
admiration of the important work being undertaken in this area,
such as developments in the technological advances and AI to
support people living with dementia recognising how much this
disease affects so many in society.
The Cabinet Member for Health, Wellbeing and
Public Health left the meeting at 1.08pm
- Regarding the report’s
reference to two new roles appointed for running the dementia
information project the Member asked what investment was planned
for that purpose for the communication strategy and whether Key
Performance Indicators (KPIs) were in place and what they were so
we could understand and monitor what was being undertaken. The Head
of Commissioning for Mental Healthconfirmed there were KPIs
attached to the project, such as around establishing contact with
90 of the organisations on the support map, and then identify two
champions within each Surrey borough. This work was ongoing. There
was a network in place to support those champions, where everybody
had access to the same information, communication and advice for
people with dementia and for carers. With regards to the
communication strategy, they were linking up with Communication and
Engagement colleagues to get the message out and through statutory
body mechanisms and working with voluntary sectors, Action for
Carers, and Healthwatch Surrey Luminus for example.
- The Member asked if the were any
geographical holes in their coverage. The Head of Commissioning for
Mental Health raised she was not aware of any.
- The Chairman noted that the report
referred to further work being planned to analyse dementia
diagnosis rates by GP practice level to further explore and act on
any unexpected variation, particularly within Surrey’s
priority populations, and 21 priority areas of communities with
identity and geography which were often overlooked and most at risk
of experiencing poorer health outcomes. The Chairman asked what was
being done in how we are communicating, specifically targeted to
those priority populations, and how was that work being measured.
The Deputy Director of Mental Health Commissioning explained that
the work Surrey Heartlands Integrated Care Board (ICB) was going to
do around looking at the GP practice level and Primary Care Network
(PCN) level together with primary care colleagues had not yet
started but was planned work. The priority populations would be
built into that work, and there was an opportunity to plan this
thinking going forward.
- In terms of how Public Health shared
information with the population, the Public Health Principal
explained that all information about the health and wellbeing and
services offered was on the ‘Healthy Surrey’ website.
Regarding how SCC targeted key neighbourhood areas and population
groups, the health and wellbeing index was closely monitored, in
terms of some of the key indicators that were in the health and
wellbeing strategy and could also be looked at by place and key
neighbourhood area. In terms of population characteristics, this
was more challenging due to a lack of data, but the indicator could
still be utilised. A lot of work was already happening in place
based partnerships and working out some tangible actions that could
be done. A key thing was about coordinating efforts, but the health
and wellbeing index was a good tool.
- The Chairman raised the importance
of measuring how well communication exercises reached people. The
Public Health Principal added there were several ways to evaluate
communication campaigns, for example the number of
‘clicks’ onto websites could be measured, and sometimes
hotspot areas could also be measured and perhaps in the future AI
technology could support this area. .
RESOLVED:
- The report identifies that Priority
Populations such as BAME may have different levels of the risk
factors for Dementia. Gaining a better understanding on the
prevalence of the risk factors and Dementia in the priority
populations and the 21 Priority Areas is recommended and
consideration of population appropriate health actions to reduce
health inequalities.
- There is a need to better understand
why levels of diagnosis within Surrey are higher and it is
recommended that more research is undertaken to establish why the
numbers are higher.
- The effectiveness of communications
around reducing the risk factors for Dementia is critical.
Measurement of the effectiveness of communications and their
ability to change behaviours is recommended.
- Enhanced training and support for
Carers is recommended.
- It is recommended that information
is produced to support community leaders and especially councillors
in supporting carers with what information is available for them,
and the research needs to look at priority areas as part of
that.
Actions/requests for
further information:
- Democratic Services to check that
all links in the report work and send to the committee.
In relation to the ‘stop smoking’
support, there was a request to share figures on the population of
smokers in Surrey and possibly information on whether they are
light smokers/ heavy smokers, and to share further information on
the education around smoking and why this was not being done at an
earlier age.