Venue: Ashcombe Suite, County Hall, Kingston upon Thames, Surrey KT1 2DN
Contact: Angela Guest
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APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
The Chairman to report apologies for absence. Additional documents: Minutes: Apologies have been received from Peter Waddell, Nick Gething and Pat Frost.
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MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING PDF 330 KB
To approve the minutes of the meeting held on 28 June 2018 as a correct record. Additional documents: Minutes: Members noted that some amendments were required to the attendance list on page one. |
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DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST
All Members present are required to declare, at this point in the meeting or as soon as possible thereafter (i) Any disclosable pecuniary interests and / or (ii) Other interests arising under the Code of Conduct in respect of any item(s) of business being considered at this meeting NOTES: · Members are reminded that they must not participate in any item where they have a disclosable pecuniary interest · As well as an interest of the Member, this includes any interest, of which the Member is aware, that relates to the Member’s spouse or civil partner (or any person with whom the Member is living as a spouse or civil partner) · Members with a significant personal interest may participate in the discussion and vote on that matter unless that interest could be reasonably regarded as prejudicial.
Additional documents: Minutes: There were no declarations of interest made. |
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PUBLIC QUESTIONS
To receive any public questions.
Note: Written questions from the public can be submitted no later than seven days prior to the published date of the annual or any ordinary public meeting, for which the Commissioner will be invited to provide a written response by noon on the day before the meeting, which will be circulated to Panel Members and the questioner. Additional documents: Minutes: There were no public questions submitted. |
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COMMISSIONING ARRANGEMENTS PDF 55 KB
The Police and Crime Commissioner for Surrey has published a refreshed commissioning strategy to align with his Police and Crime Plan for 2018-20. The strategy sets out his commissioning approach for the remaining two years of his term. Additional documents: Minutes: Witnesses: David Munro, Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner Key points raised in discussion:
The PCC highlighted the Community Safety Fund and
stressed that it was used to implement a wide range of schemes with
public benefit, including an anti-social behaviour scheme aimed to
aid the victims. RESOLVED:
That Members noted the report. Actions/Further information to be provided: None.
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POLICE AND CRIME PLAN QUARTERLY UPDATE PDF 150 KB
The PCC published a refreshed Police and Crime Plan for 2018 to 2020. This built on the previous plan issued in 2016. The refresh was informed by emerging crime trends, consultation, scrutiny of current force performance and meetings and visits with Surrey Police, public and partners. This report gives a progress report on the Police and Crime Plan.
Additional documents: Minutes: Witnesses:
David Munro, Surrey Police and
Crime Commissioner
Key points raised in discussion:
1.
Members queried the burglary prevention kits that
were noted in the report and questioned their use and
effectiveness. The PCC explained that kits included SelectaDNA marking water, which would be used to
aid in recovery of stolen property and serve as a deterrent to
burglary. It was also noted that the Surrey Police was offering
these kits at a discount for members of the public who
applied. The PCC noted that other
brands of DNA kit were also available. 2.
The PCP noted that webcast sessions of public
meetings of the PCC were advertised on the Office of the Police and
Crime Commissioner’s website, as well as advertised on social
media. 3.
The PCP explained the 101 call time responses
statistics, and stated that the call time was measured from the
beginning of the contact to when the call was picked up by an
agent. 4.
Members questioned the PCP’s response to
unauthorised Gypsy, Roma and Traveller (GRT) encampments in Surrey
and whether the Office of the Police and Crime Commissioner
considered the response of Surrey Police to this issue to be
robust. The PCC noted that this was a significant issue and that
the police were working to pursue criminality that took place in
these encampments. However, it was noted that the police had
difficulty with this, often due to lack of evidence of criminality
and stressed that the police needed help from the community to aid
in the task of reducing crime resultant of this issue. 5.
It was noted by the PCC that he had requested Surrey
Police to undertake a review of the thresholds between anti-social
behaviour and criminality, as it was explained that they were not
clear at present and that this had led to increased ambiguity over
anti-social behaviour in unauthorised encampments. This was often a
cause of community tension and frustration. 6.
Members questioned Transit Camps, their
effectiveness in other authorities, and the impact that these would
have if implemented. The PCC noted that the idea for Transit Camps
was used in other comparable local authorities as an additional
deterrent to authorised encampments and gave the police additional
powers to move on unauthorised encampments to these sites. It was
also noted that there was some impetus from central government to
strengthen laws relating to trespass on land and unauthorised
encampments and that this may improve the ability for police to
move on unauthorised encampments. 7.
It was stressed that the PCC had attended a meeting
of the Surrey Leaders Group where the idea of transit camps was
received positively. It was noted, however, that potential sites
were not identified during this discussion. 8.
The PCC noted that victims of crime resulting from
unauthorised encampments were carefully considered and that police
had spent time and resource to reassure and protect
residents. 9. The PCC stressed that the Office of ... view the full minutes text for item 27/18 |
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MEDIUM TERM FINANCIAL PLAN PDF 64 KB
The purpose of this report is to inform the Police & Crime Panel about the Medium Term Financial Plan assumptions that are being made for the four year period 2019/20 to 2022/23. Additional documents: Minutes: Witnesses: David Munro, Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner Key points raised in discussion:
1.
The Treasurer of the Office of the Police and Crime
Commissioner outlined the Medium Term Financial Plan (MTFP) and
explained that it contained a broad look over the period of the
next four years, and included proposals relating to the precepts,
and the implications that this would have upon the
budget.
2.
Members questioned underspend in the Capital budget
and asked whether the Office of the Police and Crime Commissioner
could use this to alleviate some of the budget deficit issues.
Officers noted that it was not feasible to use the capital budget
in this way as the capital budget was separate from the revenue
budget .
3.
Officers noted that the estate strategy expenditure
were currently focussed on planning and development of proposals,
and did not include any construction at present.
4.
The PCC noted that Surrey Police had been working in
partnership with three other forces, Thames Valley, Hampshire,
Sussex, to reduce costs through co-operation and sharing services
as part of the South East Integrated Policing Programme
(SERIP).
5.
The PCC noted that they were in discussions with the
Home Office to highlight issues with the funding formula, and
stress that Surrey Police needed to be treated fairly.
6.
The PCC explained that he was confident that the
service would find the savings required to maintain a balanced
budget. RESOLVED:
That Members noted the report. Actions/Further information to be provided: None.
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NEW RESPONSIBILITIES FOR POLICE AND CRIME COMMISSIONER REGARDING COMPLAINTS PDF 446 KB
This report aims to outline the changes to the complaints process resulting from the Policing & Crime Act 2017. The report attempts to set a timetable for these changes to be implemented and what the impact is likely to be for the Surrey Police and Crime Panel. Additional documents: Minutes: Witnesses: David Munro, Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner Key points raised in discussion:
RESOLVED: That the Police and Crime Panel noted the changes to the police complaints system.
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FEEDBACK ON PERFORMANCE MEETINGS PDF 83 KB
This report provides an update on the meetings that have been held between the Police & Crime Commissioner and the Chief Constable and what has been discussed in order to demonstrate that arrangements for good governance and scrutiny are in place. Additional documents: Minutes: Witnesses: David Munro, Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner Key points raised in discussion:
Members noted the report and added no additional
comments. RESOLVED: That Members noted the report.
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The Police and Crime Panel to note the current scrutiny the Police & Crime Commissioner is providing on the subject of disclosure. Additional documents: Minutes: Witnesses: David Munro, Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner Key points raised in discussion: RESOLVED: That Members noted the report.
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COMMISSIONERS QUESTION TIME PDF 68 KB
For the Panel to raise any issues or queries concerning crime and policing in Surrey with the Commissioner. Additional documents: Minutes: Witnesses: David Munro, Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner Key points raised in discussion:
Actions/further information to be provided: That the PCC look into this enquiry and ensure that adequate support is provided to this proposal.
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RECOMMENDATIONS TRACKER AND FORWARD WORK PROGRAMME PDF 57 KB
To review the Recommendations Tracker and Forward Work Programme. Additional documents: Minutes: Witnesses: Richard Plummer, Democratic Services Officer Key points raised in discussion:
Members questioned the Closed Circuit Television
(CCTV) strategy. The PCC noted that this was on the agenda for the
next Chief Executives Group Meeting and that it was a work in
progress. RESOLVED: That Members noted the report and approved the forward plan and actions tracker.
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COMPLAINTS RECEIVED SINCE THE LAST MEETING PDF 55 KB
To note complaints against the Police and Crime Commissioner and the Deputy Police and Crime Commissioner received since the last meeting of the Police and Crime Panel. Additional documents: Minutes: Witnesses: None Key points raised in discussion: Members noted that one complaint had been received and that the panel was receiving legal advice regarding this. It was noted that a response would be provided to the committee when this legal advice was forthcoming.
RESOLVED:
That the report was noted.
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EXCLUSION OF PUBLIC
That under Section 100(A) of the Local Government Act 1972, the public be excluded from the meeting during consideration of the following items of business on the grounds that they involve the likely disclosure of exempt information under the relevant paragraphs of Part 1 of Schedule 12A of the Act.
Additional documents: Minutes: RESOLVED:
That under Section 100(A) of the Local Government Act 1972, the public be excluded from the meeting during consideration of the following items of business on the grounds that they involve the likely disclosure of exempt information under the relevant paragraphs of Part 1 of Schedule 12A of the Act.
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REVIEW OF JOINT FINANCE TEAM
The Panel to note this exempt update report. Minutes: Witnesses: David Munro, Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner Key points raised in discussion: Members were provided an exempt update on the review of the joint finance team.
Actions/further information to be provided: None. |
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NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF POLICE, FIRE AND CRIME PANELS
The Chairman will lead a closed discussion regarding the attached letter. Minutes: Witnesses: None Key points raised in discussion: Members discussed the proposal for a national association of police, fire and crime panels in detail. It was agreed that the Surrey Police and Crime Panel would not participate in the national association following this discussion.
RESOLVED: That the Surrey Police and Crime Panel would not seek membership of the national association at this time.
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DATE OF NEXT MEETING
Additional documents: Minutes: The next meeting of the Police and Crime Panel will be on 28 November 2018, at County Hall. |