Agenda and draft minutes

Adults and Health Select Committee - Thursday, 6 March 2025 10.00 am

Venue: Council Chamber, Woodhatch Place, 11 Cockshot Hill, Reigate, Surrey, RH2 8EF

Contact: Sally Baker, Scrutiny Officer 

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APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTIONS

    To report any apologies for absence and substitutions.

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    The Chairman noted apologies received from Cllr Caroline Joseph, Cllr Dennis Booth, and Cllr John Furey.

     

    Apologies were also received from Claire Edgar, Executive Director of Adults, Wellbeing and Health Partnerships (AWHP).

     

    Substitute: Sarah Kershaw, Strategic Director: Transformation, Assurance & Integration, Adults, Wellbeing and Health Partnerships

     

    Cllr Robert Evans and Cllr Abby King arrived at 10.01am.

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MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING: 4 DECEMBER 2024 pdf icon PDF 202 KB

    To agree the minutes of the previous meeting of the Adults and Health Select Committee as a true and accurate record of proceedings.

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    The minutes of the previous meeting were AGREED as a true and accurate record.

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DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

    All Members present are required to declare, at this point in the meeting or as soon as possible thereafter

    (i)            Any disclosable pecuniary interests and / or

    (ii)           Other interests arising under the Code of Conduct in respect of any item(s) of business being considered at this meeting

    NOTES:

    ·         Members are reminded that they must not participate in any item where they have a disclosable pecuniary interest

    ·         As well as an interest of the Member, this includes any interest, of which the Member is aware, that relates to the Member’s spouse or civil partner (or any person with whom the Member is living as a spouse or civil partner)

    ·         Members with a significant personal interest may participate in the discussion and vote on that matter unless that interest could be reasonably regarded as prejudicial.

     

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    Cllr Trefor Hogg declared he was a community representative for Frimley Health. Cllr Victoria Wheeler declared a pecuniary interest in relation to anything relating to an electronic patient record which was impacted from Epsom and St Helier Hospital. Cllr Carla Morson declared a non-pecuniary interest that she had a close relative working at Frimley Park Hospital.

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QUESTIONS AND PETITIONS

    To receive any questions or petitions.

    NOTES:

    1.    The deadline for Members’ questions is 12:00pm four working days before the meeting (28 February 2025).

     

    2.    The deadline for public questions is seven days before the meeting(27 February 2025).

     

    3.    The deadline for petitions was 14 days before the meeting, and no petitions have been received.

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    None received.

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CABINET RESPONSE TO SELECT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS pdf icon PDF 110 KB

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    To note the most recent Cabinet responses to the Committee’s past

    recommendations.

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    Witnesses:

    Sinead Mooney, Cabinet Member for Adult Social Care

     

    Key points raised in the discussion:

     

    1. The Cabinet Member for Adult Social Care outlined the Select Committee’s recommendations and Cabinet’s responses.

     

    1. Regarding strong and effective risk management with a focus on maintaining sustainable services for our vulnerable residents, it was highlighted that there was a lot of focus regarding risk management, mitigating potential negative outcomes, and the identification of opportunities for improvement. There was focus on the data gathered within the AWHP Directorate concerning the management of potential risk and validation of the impact on our services.

     

    1. Regarding Needs Assessments, they ensured that was properly resourced with delivery of improvements in those areas as per the work being undertaken within the Transformation programme of work and as highlighted from the CQC report. The robust scrutiny of that plan would be welcomed by this select committee to ensure that the improvements necessary are delivered.

     

    1. Regarding supporting the provision of Technology Enabled Care (TEC) it was acknowledged how helpful this Committee’s scrutiny and input had been, with an acknowledgement that this area of work was on the forward plan to return to the committee for public scrutiny to share the plans for rolling this out within the next six months.

     

    Regarding Investment and the tracking of spending, much work was undertaken into the monitoring and tracking of the Adult Social Care (ASC) budget and the Cabinet Member for ASC offered assurances around that robust management of the monitoring which was already in place. Areas of risk had been identified, and reassurance provided that collectively as a team they would work to reduce and monitor those risks. The Chairman responded to address the importance concerning the area of assessments being robust and timely, due to the impact on hospital bed capacity and waiting lists.

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STANDARDISING ACCESS TO URGENT AND EMERGENCY CARE SERVICES- THE REDESIGNATION OF MINOR INJURY UNITS/WALK-IN CENTRES TO URGENT TREATMENTS CENTRES ACROSS SURREY HEARTLANDS pdf icon PDF 187 KB

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    The purpose of this paper is to brief the Surrey County Council Adults & Health Select Committee on work that is being undertaken across Surrey Heartlands ICS to standardise access to urgent and emergency care services for local people, specifically the redesignation of Minor Injury Units/Walk in Centres (MIU/WICs) to Urgent Treatment Centres (UTCs). This work responds to recognition – locally and nationally – that the current urgent care ‘offer’ is fragmented and confusing for the public which is front and centre of NHS England’s national strategy to redesignate all MIU/WiCs to UTCs by April 2025.

     

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    • Mark Nuti, Cabinet Member for Health, Wellbeing and Public Health
    • Sinead Mooney, Cabinet Member for Adult Social Care
    • Giselle Rothwell, Director of Communications and Engagement, Surrey Heartlands Integrated Care System
    • Dr Pramit Patel, GP (General Practitioner) and Partner Member for Providers of Primary Care Medical Services for NHS Surrey Heartlands ICB
    • Robert Game, Director Urgent Emergency Care and System Resilience, Surrey Heartlands Integrated Care System

     

    Prior to the discussion, witnesses provided a presentation on the report to the committee.

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

     

    1.    A Member asked for clarification on the 25 percent increase of patients figure mentioned in the presentation and why that would be. The Member also asked what the opening hours would be, and what would happen if someone arrived just before the service closed, and how peak times were dealt with particularly regarding children that may arrive with an injury. The Director of Urgent Emergency Care (UEC) and System Resiliencereplied that the 25 percent shift in activity in terms of the existing activity currently predominantly sat within Emergency Departments (EDs) in those hours and they would move them to the UTCs. Caterham Dene, Ashford, and Woking operated 8:00am / 8:30am until 8pm. Haslemere operated five days a week as opposed to seven days a week, however that would be changed to enable them to operate a minimum of twelve hours a day. As services develop the communications route would play a part in how those patients would be directed via the bookable slots via NHS 111 and by a triage process similar to those used in EDs at present, if people walk in. Regarding demand management, UTCs would be brought in with real time data, and via this data they would be able to identify where the pinch points are and appropriately signpost patients to perhaps be seen much quicker than at present. Walk-In patients reaching UTCs at the end of the day would be assessed via the triage process, and if necessary be redirected to another service with patient accompanying data being provided to that redirection service.

     

    2.    The Member reiterated the point concerning children arriving and for elaboration around the statistics related to peak times for walk-in patients. The Director of UEC and System Resilienceclarified that after school hours during the week and at weekends were considered peak times. A map provided the- modelled activity and Surrey Heartlands Integrated Care System (ICS) would ensure resource to that level. With the standardised data set and service, that modelling became more refined over time, which provided the opportunity to flexibly move the resource as appropriate.

     

    3.    The Chairman asked what provision was expected for mental health patients presenting at UTCs, and whether they had looked at the incorporation of the work of the UTC with for example, the Safe Havens. The Director of UEC and System Resilience confirmed that there was a process within ED departments, with strong links with the Safe Haven service and the mental health Trust, which had  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6/25

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SUPPORTING GENERAL PRACTICE ACCESS THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF AUTOMATION CAPABILITIES pdf icon PDF 122 KB

    General practice continues to evolve in response to increasing patient demand, workforce shortages, and the need for more efficient care pathways. Automation tools, such as Rapid Health Smart Triage, are being introduced to help practices manage demand, improve access, and ensure patients are directed to the right care at the right time.

     

    This report sets out:

    ·           The challenges general practice faces and the need for change

    ·           Why practices have moved from eConsult to Rapid Health Smart Triage to support their access transformation

    ·           How automation to support access is being adopted and embedded in Surrey Heath and Farnham practices

    ·           Early experiences from Surrey Heath and Farnham, including successes and areas for ongoing improvement.

    Automation is an enabler in the transformation to establish more sustainable general practice models. Its role is to reduce unnecessary manual processes, improve triage, and ensure patients receive care in the most appropriate setting while preserving personal interactions where needed.

     

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    Meeting resumed at 11.44am

     

    Witnesses:

    • Mark Nuti, Cabinet Member for Health, Wellbeing and Public Health
    • Gurpreet Mangat, Associate Director of Digital Primary Care (Frimley ICB)
    • Karl Bennett, GP and Clinical Lead for Primary Care Digital Transformation, Frimley ICB
    • Dr Mark Pugsley, Clinical Lead- Surrey Heath Place (Frimley ICB) and GP Partner
    • Nina Crump, Primary Care Digital Programme Manager (Surrey Heartlands ICS)
    • Samantha Botsford, Contract Manager (Healthwatch Surrey)

     

    Prior to the discussion, witnesses provided a presentation on the report to the committee.

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

     

    1. The GP and Clinical Lead for Primary Care Transformationnoted that GPs were under increasing pressure, not solely due to patient demand but also resulted from issues that resulted from the impacts of COVID-19. There was a focus on hospitals to reduce waiting lists and welcomed the shift to primary care, with more work undertaken outside of hospital, the resources would need to be available to align with that. It was noted that the controversy around online consultations similar to the controversy around telephone appointments with some success and convenience was there, and a recognition there had been improvements for access with some groups and that more could be done in terms of improving the access, for certain other groups. Primary care needed to be clever with demand management and achieve consistency of access. The distinction between a patient needs and wants meant that there was a perception the service was failing by not meeting the patient expectations. There was work to do in the way GPs handled online consultations, and they would continue to do so.

     

    1. The Associate Director of Digital Primary Carehighlighted the efforts of the practice to try to find ways to meet the need and think about how to use the workforce differently whilst maintaining a consistency of offer. The online consultation market was evolving which allowed practitioners to ensure the right tools were in pace to support their model and support them in managing capacity to best support patients. Differentiating patient need and preference was challenging but was aligned with equity so that no matter where you went, you would have the same story and were supported by the new digital capabilities coming in. In Frimley, whilst everything cannot be standardised due to population differences, what could be managed was to ensure that the consistency was in place and could be ensured. GPs were able to use the best tools to support them in this in order to take patients on the journey so that it was understood.

     

    1. The Associate Director of Digital Primary Care added that every practice had a cycle of communication and engagement, using various methods. Some Frimley practices held face-to-face sessions for those that could not use digital engagement which helped to relieve their concerns. Positive feedback was received from one practice which had showed that fifty percent of patients who used one of the tools found them easy to use, which would help in creating capacity by freeing up phone lines.

     

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RECOMMENDATIONS TRACKER AND FORWARD WORK PROGRAMME pdf icon PDF 330 KB

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    For the Select Committee to review the attached recommendations tracker and forward work programme, making suggestions for additions or amendments as appropriate.

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    Note: This item was taken after Item 4.

     

    The Committee NOTED the recommendations and forward work programme.

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DATE OF THE NEXT MEETING

    The next public meeting of the committee will be held on 11 July 2025 at 10:00am.

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    The Chairman NOTED the date of the next meeting was Friday 11 July 2025