Agenda and minutes

Joint Health and Overview Scrutiny Committee (Frimley Park Hospital) - Friday, 22 November 2024 2.30 pm

Venue: Surrey Heath Borough Council, Surrey Heath House, Knoll Road, Camberley, Surrey GU15 3HD

Contact: Sally Baker, Scrutiny Officer 

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APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTIONS

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    The Chairman to report apologies for absence and substitutions.

     

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    The Chairman noted that apologies had been received from Cllr Carla Morson and Cllr Phil North.

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MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING: 6 SEPTEMBER 2024 pdf icon PDF 272 KB

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    Purpose of the item: To agree the minutes of the Joint Health and Overview Scrutiny Committee (Frimley Park Hospital) held on 6 September 2024 as a true and accurate record of proceedings.

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    The Minutes were AGREED as a true and accurate record.

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DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

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    All Members present are required to declare, at this point in the

    meeting or as soon as possible thereafter

     

    (i)            Any disclosable pecuniary interests and / or

     

    (ii)           Other interests arising under the Code of Conduct in respect of any item(s) of business being considered at this meeting

     

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    ·         Members are reminded that they must not participate in any item where they have a disclosable pecuniary interest

     

    ·         As well as an interest of the Member, this includes any interest, of which the Member is aware, that relates to the Member’s spouse or civil partner (or any person with whom the Member is living as a spouse or civil partner)

     

    ·         Members with a significant personal interest may participate inthe discussion and vote on that matter unless that interest could be reasonably regarded as prejudicial.

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    The Chairman declared an interest that he was a community representative to Frimley Health. The Vice-Chairman declared that his wife worked for Surrey Heath on the community side. Cllr Tony Virgo declared he was a volunteer for Radio Frimley Park at Frimley Park Hospital.

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PUBLIC QUESTIONS

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    The deadline for public questions is seven days before the meeting

    (Friday 15 November 2024).

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    None were received.

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MEMBER QUESTIONS

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    The deadline for Member’s questions is 12pm four working days before

    the meeting (Monday 18 November 2024).

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    None were received.

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CONTINGENCY PLANNING FOR FRIMLEY PARK HOSPITAL

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    Purpose of the item: To provide an update on work to keep the Frimley Park Hospital building safe and services maintained.

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    Carol Deans, Director, Communications and Engagement (Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust)

    Alex White, Programme Director, New Frimley Park Hospital Programme (Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust)

    Caroline Hutton, Deputy Chief Executive and Senior Responsible Officer (SRO) for the New Frimley Park Hospital Programme (Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust).

    Sam Burrows, Chief Transformation, Delivery and Digital Officer (NHS Frimley Integrated Care Board)

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

     

    1. The Programme Director took the Committee through the Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete (RAAC) maintenance plan. There is an on-going pro-active planned preventative maintenance programme to address risk. One issue with the maintenance work was that certain areas of the hospital had to be vacated while works were undertaken. The works did not address other constraints such as ventilation. Three key areas of the contingency plan included the proactive rolling programme of engineering works, keeping everyone appraised of the issues being faced and alerting management teams of any issues as they arose, and an urgent response situation which would be applied to operational issues.

     

    1. Concerning the operational impact and contingency plans, the SRO explained that the planning required to manage and coordinate capacity plans and the RAAC mitigation programme was significant. 

     

    1. The SRO highlighted that staff were aware of the RAAC situation and reported anything unusual. Planning ahead scenarios were also factored into staff training and awareness. The emergency preparedness, resilience and response (EPRR) plans included NHSE and regional teams. Scenarios were also worked through with colleagues in the event of needing to move patients.

     

    1. A Member asked how many wards/areas of the current hospital could be closed at one time due to RAAC maintenance. The SRO explained that usually no more than two wards/areas would be closed at one time. For example, the hospital’s day surgery units were closed at the same time as the theatres. It was variable in terms of what arose at inspections. This needed to be factored into operational planning and mapped out ahead of time as far as possible.

     

    1. A Member asked for more details around the process and engineering involved in the maintenance works. The New Frimley Park Hospital Programme Director explained that the ongoing works were predominately to reinforce the roof which were made of RAAC planks. Typically, suspended ceilings were removed, and services underneath the RAAC planks need to be removed.

     

    1. In terms of the maintenance works, the Member asked whether the hospital would be better repaired, or if the building was still at risk in relation to all of this work being done. The New Frimley Park Hospital Programme Director explained that the maintenance works did not address other issues associated with the age of the hospital, such as ventilation requirements. A ward would ordinarily require six air changes per hour, and the current hospital did not currently have the engineering to achieve this. The RAAC planks also had a limited life despite maintenance works.

     

    1. A Member asked if the RAAC plank’s limited lifespan would be enough until the new hospital was built, or  ...  view the full minutes text for item 22/24

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NEW HOSPITAL PROGRAMME UPDATE

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    Purpose of the item: To provide an update on the programme reviews and transformation opportunities.

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    Carol Deans, Director, Communications and Engagement (Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust)

    Alex White, Programme Director, New Frimley Park Hospital Programme (Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust)

    Caroline Hutton, Deputy Chief Executive and Senior Responsible Officer (SRO) for the New Frimley Park Hospital Programme (Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust).

    Sam Burrows, Chief Transformation, Delivery and Digital Officer (NHS Frimley Integrated Care Board)  

     

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    1. The SRO noted the change of leadership updating the committee of the new CEO for Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust, Lance McCarthy as well as Alex White as the Programme Director and explained the revised governance which ensured closer working across the system. A new Trust Board sub-committee was being established to provide assurance on the New Hospital Programme. There would also be a New Programme Board including colleagues from the system, national teams, and regional NHS teams. The New Frimley Park Hospital Programme was working closely along the journey to avoid unnecessary delays with leadership teams in the Department of Health and NHSE which was expected to continue. The first thing that was done was to invite The Department of Health SRO, Natalie Forest, to visit the Trust to have a conversation about their plans and ambitions for transformation, as well as the NHSE team on delivery and transformation. There was an opportunity to ensure that future strategy and planning considered the Darzi Review recommendations and the emerging NHSE 10-year plan. The principle of these were to move more services into the community, move from analogue to digital working and focus more on preventing sickness. The clinical strategy within the acute setting but working across the whole system with system colleagues, was being revisited to see how the transformation plans considered opportunities across the whole system. A lot of work was done to implement advanced digital technologies in both acute and community settings such as Artificial Intelligence (AI), an advanced electronic patient record system, and virtual wards. The new hospital was expected to be a Smart hospital. The SRO brought attention to Heatherwood Hospital, which was recognised nationally as an exemplar surgical hub which was digitally enabled with continuous improvement by staff, and encompassed things looked for by the NHS. The SRO noted there were further opportunities such as the potential expansion of Heatherwood to take more elective work. This may be built into their business case. The other site was Wexham Park, and the SRO noted some of the difficulties in moving some clinical services there, and the opportunities to do more remote monitoring, virtual monitoring, virtual wards and digital hubs which would mean that some of the budget could be invested to Wexham Park, which would serve the whole system. There were out of hospital models and conversations around adopting hospital in the High Street type models. The expectation was to produce a high-level clinical strategy and transformation plan and the details of the development and delivery of those were being aligned to the national plans to deliver to the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 23/24

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DATE OF NEXT MEETING

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    The next public meeting has been proposed for Friday 20 December

    2024.

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    Meeting ended at 4.13pm