Agenda and draft minutes

Adults and Health Select Committee - Thursday, 10 October 2024 10.00 am

Venue: Council Chamber, Woodhatch Place, 11 Cockshot Hill, Reigate, Surrey, RH2 8EF

Contact: Sally Baker, Scrutiny Officer 

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18/24

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTIONS

    Purpose of the item: To report any apologies for absence and substitutions.

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    Apologies were received from Cllr Angela Goodwin, Cllr Robert Evans, Borough Councillor Victoria Wheeler, Sinead Mooney, Cabinet Member for Adult Social Care, Graham Wareham, Chief Executive, Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Foundation Trust, Helen Coombes, Outgoing Interim Executive Director of Adults, Wellbeing and Health Partnerships (SCC), Helen Coe, Director of Operations & Recovery, NHS Surrey Heartlands ICB and Stephen Dunn, Director of System Flow and Delivery.

     

19/24

MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS: 10 MAY 2024 pdf icon PDF 465 KB

    Purpose of the item: To agree the minutes of the previous meeting of the Adults and Health Select Committee as a true and accurate record of proceedings.

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    The minutes were AGREED as a true and accurate record of proceedings.

     

20/24

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

    All Members present are required to declare, at this point in the meeting or as soon as possible thereafter

                (i)        Any disclosable pecuniary interests and / or

               (ii)        Other interests arising under the Code of Conduct in respect of any     item(s) of business being considered at this meeting.

     

    NOTES:

    ·         Members are reminded that they must not participate in any item where they have a disclosable pecuniary interest.

    ·         As well as an interest of the Member, this includes any interest, of which the Member is aware, that relates to the Member’s spouse or civil partner (or any person with whom the Member is living as a spouse or civil partner).

    ·         Members with a significant personal interest may participate in the discussion and vote on that matter unless that interest could be reasonably regarded as prejudicial.

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    The Chairman declared he was a community representative to NHS Frimley. Cllr Carla Morson declared that she had a relative that worked at Frimley Park Hospital. The Chairman declared on behalf of Cllr Victoria Wheeler that she worked for a company that provided consultancy advice to the NHS generally.

     

21/24

QUESTIONS AND PETITIONS

    Purpose of the item: To receive any questions or petitions.

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    1.    The deadline for Members’ questions is 12:00pm four working days before the meeting (xxx).

     

    2.    The deadline for public questions is seven days before the meeting(xxx).

     

    3.    The deadline for petitions was 14 days before the meeting, and no petitions have been received.

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    None were received.

     

22/24

CANCER AND ELECTIVE CARE BACKLOGS pdf icon PDF 2 MB

    Purpose of the item:

    These reports outline the backlogs for cancer and elective (planned) care across Surrey Heartlands and Frimley ICS, the progress made in addressing these and actions being taken to reduce further. In addition, it outlines the work being undertaken to increase diagnostic capacity.

     

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    Witnesses:

    Professor Andrew Rhodes, Professor of Critical Care at the University of London and the Chief Medical Officer for Surrey Heartlands Integrated Care Board (SHICB)

    Lucy Hetherington, Associate Director of Planned Carefor Surrey Heartlands Integrated Care Board

    Alexander Stamp, Deputy Chief Operating Officer– Planned Care Frimley Heath Foundation Trust (FHFT)

    Orlagh Flynn, ICS Programme Director Elective Care, deputising obo Stephen Dunn, Director of System Flow and Delivery (Frimley NHS Trust)

     

    Key point raised during the discussion:

    1. The Chief Medical Officer (SHICB) provided a brief introduction to the report about the elective delivery of the waiting lists relating to outpatient surgery, diagnostics, and cancer.

     

    1. The Chairman referred to the serious impact on those on the waiting list for long periods, and that there were further challenges to waiting lists over the past 12 months due to industrial action in addition to the impact of Covid. The Chairman asked if Surrey Heartlands Integrated Care Board (SHICB) had a system in place to cope with this and asked what the outlook was. The Chairman also asked whether SHICB expected to bring their waiting lists back to the required standards and how confident they were that the data available was accurate. The Chief Medical Officer explained that waiting lists had not recovered since the Covid pandemic. Industrial action further impacted waiting lists. SHICB’s hospitals learnt to manage and mitigate industrial action over time. Industrial action had since finished, and it was hoped it would not continue. Waiting lists were expected to take several years to return to required standards. This involved aligning capacity against demand, ensuring the right staff, facilities and infrastructure was in place.

     

    1. A Member asked if there were any outstanding patients waiting over 78-weeks that did not relate to patient choice or conflicting medical needs. If this was the case, the Member asked how these patients were being prioritised. The Chief Medical Officer (SHICB) noted that a year prior, SHICB had patients waiting over two years, but had been resolving some of these long waits. The current aim was to see all patients within 65-weeks. The 78-week wait time had broadly disappeared. There were still a few patients at this wait time, usually due to the complexity of a patient’s caseload. Patients were prioritised against clinical need, by treating the most complex and high-risk patients first. The aim to get all patients seen within 65-weeks by the end of September 2024 was expected to be achieved by the end of 2024. The next focus would then be to reduce the wait to 52-weeks by mid2025.

     

    1. The Member referred to NHS Frimley Integrated Care Board’s (ICB) increased waiting list and its increase post-EPIC system implementation. The Member asked what actions were being taken by NHS Frimley ICB to manage and reduce the waiting lists, and when they would be under control and exceeding expected standards. The Member asked how NHS Frimley ICB was supporting patients with long waits to manage their conditions.  The Member also asked for consideration to be given  ...  view the full minutes text for item 22/24

23/24

RIGHT CARE RIGHT PERSON pdf icon PDF 195 KB

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    Purpose of the item:

    Right Care, Right Person (RCRP) is a national Police led initiative that is an operational model developed by Humberside Police.  A national partnership agreement was signed by NHS England, The Department for Health and Social Care and the National Police Chiefs Council.

     

    Right Care Right Person is designed to change the way the emergency services respond to calls involving concerns about mental health.

     

    This paper sets out the arrangements in place between the health and social care sectors and Surrey Police in response to the roll out of RCRP in Surrey.

     

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    Witnesses:

    Mark Nuti, Cabinet Member for Health and Wellbeing, and Public Health

    Liz Uliasz, Director for Mental Health, Emergency Duty Team (EDT) and Prisons- Adults, Wellbeing and Health Partnerships (AWHP)

    Simon Brauner-Cave, Deputy Director of Mental Health Commissioning- NHS Surrey Heartlands ICB (SHICB)

    Alexander Jones, Consultant Nurse Mental Health crisis care, Surrey and Borders Partnership (SaBP)

    Helen Wilshaw-Roberts, Strategic Partnerships Manager- South East Coast Ambulance Service (SECAmb)

    Maria Millwood, Board Director, Healthwatch Surrey

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

    1. The Chairman raised that it was World Mental Health Day and noted that the theme was workplace mental health. The Director for Mental Health, EDT and Prisons, and the Deputy Director of Mental Health Commissioning (SHICB) provided a brief introduction to the Right Care Right Person (RCRP) report. The Director for Mental Health, EDT and Prisons stated that the police shared their policy procedure. The police delayed the RCRP implementation on request when Surrey County Council (SCC) were planning to involve the Children, Families, Lifelong Learning and Culture directorate, and that those under18 years old were not part of RCRP. If a child was involved, the police would deploy as normal. The police delayed by about 6-weeks to give groups time to ensure practice was embedded.

     

    1. A Member asked how the monitoring of RCRP was being managed collaboratively regarding staff training and how issues were dealt with. The Director for Mental Health, EDT and Prisons explained that all organisations did their own training based on information shared by the police. Training was monitored by the bronze, silver and gold groups that continued to meet since RCRP’s implementation. Prior to RCRP’s implementation, the bronze group, looking operationally, reviewed case studies and people’s potential journeys. This escalated to the silver group, where learning was reviewed tactically. Issues were quickly raised with police and data was challenged where necessary.  The Director for Mental Health, EDT and Prisons rolled out training and staff awareness sessions to around 1000 SCC staff, which may be repeated. Prior to RCRP’s implementation, each organisation undertook a Red, Amber, and Green rating at the Silver Tactical group meeting on their readiness for RCRP. The Adults, Wellbeing and Health Partnerships directorate (AWHP) had a dedicated email where staff could raise issues. Organisations created their own guidance for staff, which included a Surrey system agreed escalation process.

     

    1. The Consultant Nurse (SaBP) stated that SaBP socialised their staff and reviewed training provided by the police. He took part in the bronze and silver meetings, where case reviews and issues around RCRP were assessed and corrected. Outside of these meetings, SaBP had regular interfaces, where good practice was discussed to ensure that things worked well and that people received the support required from the right service. SaBP went back to their teams to ensure awareness of the escalation procedure was clear, and issues were raised in the Bronze group. Initial RCRP learning with the police was around welfare checks, where people may be used to online reporting for welfare checks. SaBP communicated with teams  ...  view the full minutes text for item 23/24

24/24

MENTAL HEALTH IMPROVEMENT PLAN- FOCUS ON WORKING AGE ADULTS pdf icon PDF 568 KB

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    Purpose of the item:

    1.         This report has been prepared for the Adults and Health Select Committee.  It reviews the number of people of working age in Surrey who are not working because of mental health issues.  It will explore the issues that have led to this and how these issues can be addressed to deliver improvements for Surrey residents, especially those who experience the poorest health outcomes within the 21 Health and Wellbeing Strategy Key Neighbourhoods.

    2.         It reviews current data to ensure that the most urgent mental health needs are identified and sets out what is being delivered to support those who are some of the most vulnerable people within the community.  This is to ensure a greater focus on reducing health inequalities, so no-one is left behind.

     

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    In attendance:

    Mark Nuti, Cabinet Member for Health and Wellbeing, and Public Health

    Liz Uliasz, Director for Mental Health, Emergency Duty Team (EDT) and Prisons- Adults, Wellbeing and Health Partnerships (AWHP), Surrey County Council (SCC)

    Lucy Gate, Public Health Principal, Mental Health Surrey County Council (SCC)

    Rebecca Brooker, Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) Surrey County Council (SCC)

    Lorna Payne, Chief Operating Officer, Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Foundation Trust (SaBP)

    Georgina Foulds, Associate Director for Community Transformation, leading Surrey Heartlands Community Transformation Programme (SaBP)

    Simon Brauner-Cave, Deputy Director of Mental Health Commissioning- NHS Surrey Heartlands ICB (SHICB)

     

    Key points raised during the discussion:

    1. The Public Health Principal provided a detailed introduction to the report.

     

    1. The Chairman asked what the data explains about the number of people of working age in Surrey who were not working because of mental health issues, what are the gaps in the current provision and how these gaps could be filled. The Public Health Principal explained that in Surrey there were around 100,000 fit notes for people signed off from work due to ill health, the majority of which were mental health or MSK (musculoskeletal) related. It was not known how many of these get repeat fit notes, but it showed a population level need. The Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) added that steps were being taken to address gaps in understanding to provide a good service to residents and help those most in need. Research had been done with people living in work poverty, people furthest from the labour market and with employers to understand what this meant to them. Mental health emerged as a common theme in this work. Specific and targeted work was being undertaken around impacts on employment, looking both at the impact of sickness absence for businesses’ economic productivity and resulting effects on SCC’s system in terms of service demand and waiting lists, and the impact on individuals and wellbeing as well as qualitative and quantitative research on what experiences have been. Planned ways to engage with people on this included connecting into things such as Men’s Pitstops (mental health group). SCC would also look at their own staffing and how they can understand sickness levels and how that impacted on local productivity.

     

    1. The Chairman raised that careers and satisfying employment were key to dealing with mental health issues, and asked what focus was on skills and career development and what the thinking was on that direction. The Communities and Prevention Lead, (AWHP) explained SCC was working in a person-centred way, recognising every individual was different and wanted different things out of employment. There were two vanguard programmes through Department of Work and Pensions funding (DWP), which gave SCC £12m to support people into good quality work. This was being delivered across the system in partnership with health and voluntary sector colleagues, and district and boroughs. Both programmes had a person-centred approach with residents and included provision to work with employers to encourage workplaces to have structures and support for staff’s  ...  view the full minutes text for item 24/24

25/24

RECOMMENDATIONS TRACKER AND FORWARD WORK PROGRAMME pdf icon PDF 263 KB

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    Purpose of the item: For the Select Committee to review the attached recommendations tracker and forward work programme, making suggestions for additions or amendments as appropriate.

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    Committee had no further comments.

     

26/24

DATE OF THE NEXT MEETING

    The next public meeting of the committee will be held on 4 December 2024 at 10:00am.

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    Chairman noted the next meeting would be held on 4 December 2024.